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Sorry to take so long to get back. Been at Oran Park for the weekend. The Dick Midgley Lumina that Jim drove at Bathurst was the dedicated 'Road Course' car for that season. I'm not sure where it came from but probably from one of Dick's West Coast teams. This is the car that was sold to Graeme Smith (1) and was T-Boned at the AGP by Dumbrell and Howe. The Sportelli built Tropic Coast Lumina ended up at Fastrack and is still doing good duty!!! I still have the Walter Giles Lumina. |
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From memory i think the Midgley Lumina was the ex-Brad Jones car, they may have bought his other Lumina as well, to go along with the Pontiac Grand Prix they already had.
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This car was the fastest down Conrod (with a steel roof anyway). Not sure what happened to Brad's Lumina (s) - did he have two? One was an ex-Jeff Gordon (Display?) car though I have a feeling that one of the Jones Luminas might have became a ride car for Kim Jane. Last edited by Camaroz; 26 Apr 2005 at 04:38. |
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in 2004 Marcos Ambrose hit 302km/h. that has to be the fastest V8 supercar
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That correlates with prn 31's recollection - so I believe him! As far as I'm concerned, fighting a road going A9X at 270kmh plus would have taken a mountain more brave pills than a million dollar race prepped V8 Supercar at 302kmh! |
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Brendan are you sure?????That's the first I've heard, I thought it was impossible with the diff ratio they used last year...............
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It is impossible unless they cheated.
3.25 diff and 7500 is 296km/h and no more. And that is also why i still question the Seton thing. If they had the proper diff ratio and rev limit, it is not possible to go over 296km/h. |
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But if the variable was there, then every year it would happen instead of them simply banging away at the rev limiter at 296!
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The cars don't reach flat stick on Conrod anyway, terminal speed is determined by Forrest Elbow exit speed. Seton was clocked at 304 kmh in the Ford Credit EL by radar.
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Ahh it's coming back to me.
Morgan Shephard was out here for that race as well wasn't he? And Tracy Leslie was leading (or with the leaders at least) before putting it into the wall at turn 1. Although it ultimatly died in the end, you couldn't fault Bob Jane for effort. Bringing out the American's for the AUS v USA races, getting the likes of Kevin Schwantz and Wayne Gardner into cars, and from the early to mid 90s when there were full grids, some of the best racing in Australia. I think that is right about Jones, doing the Surfers races for 2 years prior to stepping up fulltime for the 94-95 series. |
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My family and I were down at Turn 3 for the NASCAR races (turn 2 for everything else) so we missed the two accidents at the end of the race (there was Leslie's and didn't Thomas have one as well?). I think the last one set up a three lap shootout to the finish between Dumsney, Jones and Jimmy Hensley. All in all, a good day was had by all! |
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fastest conrod speed
1968 Scuderia Veloce Ferrari P4 driven by Bill Brown 181.9 mph 305 kmh
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I know not a car, but I read that in 1976, a Japanese rider named Ikujiro Takai was clocked at 192 mph which equates to 309 kmh, on a TZ 750 Yamaha.
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Lowndes ran a 1m49 lap in a McLaren F1, when he and Button swapped cars for the Vodafone promo run in 2011.
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Update: Lowndes reckoned he hit 310 km/h through the chase in the McLaren; but with better suited gearing it could have been up to 360 km/h:
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In all honesty they should have lapped Bathurst in around 2:05 and their top speed on Conrod should have easily been around or over the 300 mark. And the reason for that was that (using the Le Mans class system of the time as a guide), they were a GTS car in a GT race/series. Sure there was the 8.0L V10 Viper in NC and the 6.0L V12 Lamborghini, but the Viper ACR was a very much watered down version of the GTS-R that had won outright at the Daytona 24 Hour and won the GTS class at Le Mans a few times, while the Lambo, unlike the Monaro, wasn't a pure race car. As for the actual top speeds on Conrod? I did hear years ago that Jim Richards was timed at 319 in his NASCAR.....which is a pretty impressive feat considering that they were on the brakes before The Chase. I also heard of Keith Carling's sports sedan being clocked at 314. The fastest Group A car that I know of was Tony Longhurst in his Sierra when he reportedly hit 295 during qualifying (which was 2km/h actually faster than Skaife went in the GT-R 12 months later), while the fastest ever Group C tourer on Conrod was Tom Walkinshaw in Gossy's V12 Jaguar in 1984 when he allegedly hit 290 in early qualifying before they changed the diff to give more punch going up Mountain Straight. Riding a motorbike on the old straight at speeds over 300 would have been pretty damn hairy. Going over the humps you'd literally fly. However.....I think the top speed would likely have been Jenson Button in the McLaren Mercedes. If Lowndes was reported to hit 310 then I've no doubt that Jenson was quite a bit quicker. |
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Possible but unlikely - the McLaren was hard on the limiter from about half-way down the straight, regardless of who was driving.
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Shortly after the first Bathurst 24hr Motor Magazine got their hands on the winning Monaro still battle scarred and AFAIK running in race trim. With Garth Tander driving it hit 307kmh at Avalon airport. Unknown was the distance required. In regards to the Monaro being a GTS car-not quite. It may have had the GTS class Corvette engine but the chassis itself didn’t have the aero or suspension that GTS cars had. No idea if the Monaros ever saw a wind tunnel like the Corvette did. John Bowe would’ve really had something to complain had the Monaro been running GTS level brakes aero and suspension. It also weighed far more then a GTS class racer by at least a couple of hundred kilos. A car faster then those NGT cars but nowhere near a GTS class Corvette/Saleen/Ferrari etc. |
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What speed did the Texaco Sierras get up to down Conrod? From memory there wasn't a Caltex Chase back then.
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