The McLaren Group and ALMS Thread (merged)

arakis · 19 Mar 2010, 02:43 (Ref:2655324)

Here is a link how Mclaren bought back controling percetige of shares from Mercedes, there is an interesting bit at the end I'll post it here

"In the longer-term future we will hopefully have a successful, mature, developed automotive company with a range of products and we may then choose to invest back in racing."

Whitmarsh also revealed that McLaren has consulted its Maranello-located competitors with regards to cooperating with one another, having talked with Ferrari Chairman Luca di Montezemolo last week. "Our message there was, 'We want to race with you,'" Martin explained. "'Where are you going to go? Why don't we go together?"

PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be LMP1 2011-12

Imagine, Ferrari, Porsche, Mclaren, Peugeut, Aston, Audi..............
if this happens I will officiali stop doing anything else and watch racing 24h a day

Denosaur · 19 Mar 2010, 03:31 (Ref:2655332)

Someone get a bucket and mop......

GT6 · 19 Mar 2010, 08:23 (Ref:2655391)

Quote:

Originally Posted by arakis

Here is a link how Mclaren bought back controling percetige of shares from Mercedes, there is an interesting bit at the end I'll post it here

"In the longer-term future we will hopefully have a successful, mature, developed automotive company with a range of products and we may then choose to invest back in racing."

Whitmarsh also revealed that McLaren has consulted its Maranello-located competitors with regards to cooperating with one another, having talked with Ferrari Chairman Luca di Montezemolo last week. "Our message there was, 'We want to race with you,'" Martin explained. "'Where are you going to go? Why don't we go together?"

PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be LMP1 2011-12

Imagine, Ferrari, Porsche, Mclaren, Peugeut, Aston, Audi..............
if this happens I will officiali stop doing anything else and watch racing 24h a day

With a line up like that the television companies will be wondering why they are bothering with F1

gwyllion · 19 Mar 2010, 08:56 (Ref:2655412)

Quote:

Originally Posted by arakis

PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be LMP1 2011-12

I fear it will only be GT2. It should be that hard for McLaren to develop GT2 version of the MP4-12C road car and race the Ferrari 458 Italia.

GT6 · 19 Mar 2010, 09:22 (Ref:2655428)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

I fear it will only be GT2. It should be that hard for McLaren to develop GT2 version of the MP4-12C road car and race the Ferrari 458 Italia.

yes it probably will be GT2 but we can dream

gwyllion · 19 Mar 2010, 09:41 (Ref:2655439)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82224 is pretty clear:

Quote:

Whitmarsh was speaking today at the launch of McLaren's MP4-12C sportscar, which he hopes can compete against Ferraris in the GT racing world. He has spoken to Ferrari boss Luca di Montezemolo about future competition between the two in sportscars.

"Our message there was: 'We want to race with you [Ferrari]. Where are you going to go? Why don't we go together?'"

dxk1 · 19 Mar 2010, 12:09 (Ref:2655508)

Quote:

Originally Posted by arakis

Whitmarsh also revealed that McLaren has consulted its Maranello-located competitors with regards to cooperating with one another, having talked with Ferrari Chairman Luca di Montezemolo last week. "Our message there was, 'We want to race with you,'" Martin explained. "'Where are you going to go? Why don't we go together?"

Imagine, all this after the F1 spying case two years ago! Now they're buddies?!

DK

kingkai · 19 Mar 2010, 12:55 (Ref:2655552)

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Originally Posted by dxk1

Imagine, all this after the F1 spying case two years ago! Now they're buddies?!

DK

Blame ze germans (mercedes)

courageous · 19 Mar 2010, 14:23 (Ref:2655629)

McLaren have also said they are not planning to have their own team, but will support customers.

gwyllion · 19 Mar 2010, 15:55 (Ref:2655705)

Perhaps these 2 guys will drive the GT2 McLaren: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvjEQDNXlhU

juicy sushi · 22 Mar 2010, 01:14 (Ref:2657561)

McLaren vs Ferrari vs Porsche vs Corvette vs BMW would be good enough I wouldn't need LMP. Throw in Audi and Toyota and it could be truly epic...

CTD · 22 Mar 2010, 09:06 (Ref:2657684)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Perhaps these 2 guys will drive the GT2 McLaren: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvjEQDNXlhU

Coulthard and Hakkinen?

Tim the Grey · 22 Mar 2010, 10:44 (Ref:2657727)

Dull Thud does have an LM24 race win in his history, even if the ACO later declared the XJ220 illegal.

As to Ferrari and McLaren infighting? "Is nothing personal, is only business"!

Flat12-Aircool · 22 Mar 2010, 12:49 (Ref:2657789)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

I fear it will only be GT2. It should be that hard for McLaren to develop GT2 version of the MP4-12C road car and race the Ferrari 458 Italia.

GT2 is effectively becoming the new GT1 if you believe some of the stories going around atm.

It remains to be seen how sustainable SRO's GT1 World championship is. Take away the ageing+technically illegal Maserati's and Corvettes and things don't look so healthy.

However regardless of which series, a MP4-12C vs 458 Italia battle is something to savour!

**Adam43** · 22 Mar 2010, 20:22 (Ref:2658099)

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Originally Posted by dxk1

Imagine, all this after the F1 spying case two years ago! Now they're buddies?!

After Todt left they have got on. So much so that Ron proposed Luca as president of FOCA. They realised they are more alike than unlike.

Yes, all those manufacturers would be great in Sportscar. However it hasn't happened yet. Would the (mainstream) TV companies go giddy for it. Maybe as much as they did in the late '80s or late '90s when there were as many manufacturers. Oh.
Not with endurance they won't. Anyway, I don't care as long as it is on some telly.

Back to the main topic.
Lets hope they allow the McLaren and teams take up the challenge. It looks a lovely car.

gwyllion · 7 Jul 2010, 14:03 (Ref:2723051)

Whitmarsh on Le Mans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_2N5_vYzRU#t=3m00

The Badger · 7 Jul 2010, 17:07 (Ref:2723127)

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Originally Posted by GT6

yes it probably will be GT2 but we can dream

He also mentioned that several people have said to him "we won our class at Le Mans" his reply was who cares !!!

Going after the overall win would excite them , and I reckon very little else .

**joeb** · 7 Jul 2010, 21:44 (Ref:2723269)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

He also mentioned that several people have said to him "we won our class at Le Mans" his reply was who cares !!!

Going after the overall win would excite them , and I reckon very little else .

I wonder if his comment stems from competition against ferrari

The Badger · 7 Jul 2010, 23:35 (Ref:2723301)

Looks to me like it does .

Ive always felt that a Ferrari P1 programe is not too far off the cards .

Mal · 8 Jul 2010, 06:56 (Ref:2723372)

I dont suppose that would stop them running a customer programme in GT if there were sufficient customers.

**Bentley03** · 8 Jul 2010, 09:43 (Ref:2723413)

I'm not reading very much into that. Another part of the group is clearly looking at a GT programme (no surprise there), whether that's as a customer programme or a factory programme, but there's not the slightest hint that they are interested in a prototype programme and an attempt at the overall. That's my interpretation, anyway.

JAG · 8 Jul 2010, 19:10 (Ref:2723658)

The road car arm adds a new dimension for Mclaren as it's a long term program with muliple product lines.

A GTE program seems a given with the MP4 but longer term a P1 prgram may become an option particularly if P1/F1 technology can be shared.

CTD · 8 Jul 2010, 21:01 (Ref:2723716)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

but longer term a P1 prgram may become an option particularly if P1/F1 technology can be shared.

Let's hope that will NEVER happen again (remembering the 3.5l rules). (Though could KERS be shared)

old man · 9 Jul 2010, 09:31 (Ref:2723923)

IMO if Ron wants to sell cars in a market dominated by Porsche and Ferrari he will have to be seen to have a consistently competitive product. With BMW and Audi around as well he needs to show the car is up to the standard of the McLaren name so a GT programme is most likely.

A one off appearance won't do it, what happened to the Panoz after their lucky win in GT2 at Le Mans?

tlongman · 10 Jul 2010, 20:55 (Ref:2724557)

Murphy via Twitter:

Quote:

Expect to see a McLaren in the American Le Mans Series in 2011.

No real interpretation needed there! I'll believe it when I see something official but it's certainly promising.

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