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Old 26 Mar 2017, 08:18 (Ref:3721561)   #1
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Vettel versus Hamilton 2017

Anyone else think that this is going to be the real fight? At least, from the opening race - it does seem that way. I'm not ruling out maybe Bottas joining the party, but I think he'll still be behind both Vettel and Hamilton. I don't think that Kimi will be in the picture at all.

Vettel and Hamilton have some history, as they both competed in the lower formulas together. Plus, there was that epic battle at the first Austin Grand Prix.

Anyway, round one to Vettel(return of the finger!) and Ferrari.

A slightly flustered Hamilton realising that he is not going to have it easy this year from now on.
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Old 26 Mar 2017, 16:23 (Ref:3721634)   #2
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Remember where you heard this first, but I think that Lewis could be angling towards a move to Ferrari. He paid them many compliments this weekend in interviews and even let it slip that red is his favourite colour (apparently his aeroplane is red)...
Either that or he's started winding Mercedes up early ready for his end of season wage negotiations.
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Old 26 Mar 2017, 18:25 (Ref:3721655)   #3
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Remember where you heard this first, but I think that Lewis could be angling towards a move to Ferrari. He paid them many compliments this weekend in interviews and even let it slip that red is his favourite colour (apparently his aeroplane is red)...
Either that or he's started winding Mercedes up early ready for his end of season wage negotiations.
Or possibly whinging that his car can't follow other cars in the dirty air, unlike the Ferrari? Also, the old chestnut of "yeah - but he has the better car, I'm the better driver" from Lewis.

Hmmm, it could be possible that move to Ferrari at the end of the season. I certainly think that Kimi might gone - he just doesn't seem to have the same speed or match Vettel for one thing. Would Ferrari take Hamilton though? Plus, would Vettel like that? I think not.
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Old 26 Mar 2017, 19:20 (Ref:3721660)   #4
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Ferrari would not jeopardize team harmony by hiring Hamilton for 2018, and beyond. Someone like Giovinazzi, a young buck that can push Vettel, would be more likely.
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Old 26 Mar 2017, 19:20 (Ref:3721661)   #5
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Do Ferrari think enough of Vettel to worry what he would or wouldn't like.....
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Old 26 Mar 2017, 21:30 (Ref:3721685)   #6
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Do Ferrari think enough of Vettel to worry what he would or wouldn't like.....
Vettel is very, very good to Ferrari. If he wins this championship I foresee an epic breakdown in tears for Schumi. Nobody should be dumb enough to mess that up.

A young driver that will push Vettel is a good idea. In an ideal world you'd get Verstappen onboard, he seems like the most dangerous young gun and with some luck you could team order him and Vettel to not play bumpercars (at least until the end of the season- get some Senna/Prost going).

But we've got a lot of talented young drivers right now. We're spoiled for choice. Play out the season and hope Kimi retires gracefully, if Kimi keeps driving like that.
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Old 27 Mar 2017, 10:40 (Ref:3721825)   #7
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I don't see Lewis driving for Ferrari, his image does not fit their MO!!!

I do see a few changes at the end of this season though there might even be a surprise or two....
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Old 27 Mar 2017, 11:05 (Ref:3721834)   #8
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I don't see Lewis driving for Ferrari, his image does not fit their MO!!!

I do see a few changes at the end of this season though there might even be a surprise or two....

How about Vettel to Merc?
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Old 27 Mar 2017, 11:13 (Ref:3721836)   #9
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Do Ferrari think enough of Vettel to worry what he would or wouldn't like.....
Depends on the championship by the time negotiations role around. If it ends up with Vettel with a 20 point lead by half way, I think Ferrari would keep Vettel happy.
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Old 27 Mar 2017, 16:02 (Ref:3721882)   #10
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How about Vettel to Merc?
It's funny we all think the German image and 4 titles would guarantee him a ride anywhere yet when things don't go to plan he can be as abrasive as a Hamilton or Alonso.

I get the distinct impression messrs Wolff and Lauda are looking to remove that sort of aggravation in future not add to it.

I guess if Vettel decided to jump late in the day they might not have many other A grade choices other than an out of contact Lewis but I don't see him fitting in too well down Maranelllo way!

Then again his driving style would give them the old school warrior with a tinge of theatre (but a 3 time WDC into the bargain) that they used to love al a Gilles, Mansell, Alesi etc etc

However I am seriously going off topic!!

It's interesting that we are talking about a possible Hamilton-Vettel swap and not Bottas? If Valtteri continues to progress within that team at the rate he is doing, keeps his nose clean and nabs a few ins tis year he will be re-signed, and if he isn't he will be attractive elsewhere.

Maybe it will be Vettel and Kimi out of Ferrari and either Hamilton/Ricciardo/Alonso in alongside Bottas
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We're getting a lot ahead of ourselves in a thread about Vettel VS Hamilton in 2017.

Although it is true that what shapes 2018 will be this year. Kimi had a very good year last year, having the measure of Seb apart from some inspired moments by the four-time world champion. From the first race, though, with the carrot of a race-winning and possibly championship-winning prancing horse dangling from a stick, I can't help avoid thinking that that's it for Raikkonen's hopes of beating him again this year and that Vettel has got this one covered already. It wouldn't be the first time; after four years of title success at Red Bull, he lost his mojo in his year alongside Ricciardo, before looking refreshed again in 2015. He seems to have been hitting a pattern of one year on one year off.

I can see the lure of Ferrari to Hamilton and vice-versa actually, but I doubt we'll be seeing it if Vettel stays. If the Ferrari is good enough to stay in the battle this year, I don't think Mercedes will look appealing enough to Vettel.

As for 2017, Hamilton dropped the ball in Round 1, pitting too early to cover off the Ferrari challenge. It was an own goal rather than a resounding success. Still, with a more daring design than in recent years and decent enough strategy, Ferrari show promise. We've only seen one round, though.
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It's funny we all think the German image and 4 titles would guarantee him a ride anywhere yet when things don't go to plan he can be as abrasive as a Hamilton or Alonso.
Yeah, the problem with Lewis and Alosno is they are sometimes abrasive even when things were going right.
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This weekend will see a better indication of the battle between Ferrari and Mercedes
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I don't think we can really draw any safe conclusions until the European season starts in May.
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This weekend will see a better indication of the battle between Ferrari and Mercedes
And we did, superb battle between the two, hope it goes on all season
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