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Old 10 Aug 2017, 11:05 (Ref:3758577)   #346
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Some newish rumours this week about the Strolls moving from Williams to Force India?

Presumably this would be in place of Perez, unless Ocon goes to Renault or Wolff moves him elsewhere?

That would mean Williams don't need to keep Massa on?

But they could need 2 new drivers?
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Old 10 Aug 2017, 13:39 (Ref:3758612)   #347
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I get the feeling there wont be a lot of change as such in big names.

I feel for next season the team line ups will be

(/ means other potential drivers connected to replace a driver)

Mercedes:
Hamilton
Bottas/Verstappen

Ferrari:
Raikonnen/Perez/Verstappen
Vettel

Red Bull:
Verstappen/Sainz
Ricciardo

Force India:
Ocon
Perez/Stroll

Williams:
Massa/Alonso/ Di Resta
Stroll/ Alonso/ Wehrlin

Renault:
Hulkenberg
Sainz/Kobica/Alonso/Buemi

HAAS:
Grosjean
Magnussen

Toro Rosso:
Sainz
Kyvat/Gasly

McLaren:
Vandoorne
Alonso/Matsushita/Sainz

Sauber:
Wehrlin/Leclerc
Ericson/Giovanazi

If anyone is interested in some of my information from, here are the links

Alonso
http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/al...itch-possible/
http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/hu...a-alonso-2018/

Verstappen
http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/ve...rcedes-switch/
http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/ve...ours-positive/

Sainz:
http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/ho...sainz-release/
http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/re...z-2018-plan-b/

Kyvat:
http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/ho...ll-keep-kvyat/

Renault as a team:
http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/bu...mours-heating/

http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/de...ee-f1-drivers/
This talks about both Wehrlin possibly being on the sideline for 2018 as Sauber could do a deal with Ferrari which would see Wehrlin out.

http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/ma...honda-rumours/
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Old 11 Aug 2017, 10:36 (Ref:3758782)   #348
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Of course Fred and Sainz are perhaps the biggest keys to the driver market. They can make or break it
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Old 11 Aug 2017, 11:16 (Ref:3758790)   #349
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Alonso yes but not Sainz. Don't fall for the Dad's politico propaganda...
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Old 11 Aug 2017, 19:32 (Ref:3758878)   #350
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Alonso yes but not Sainz. Don't fall for the Dad's politico propaganda...
Why what's Snr been saying lately?
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Old 12 Aug 2017, 00:25 (Ref:3758920)   #351
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Alas peebee2 seems to have some kind of vendetta against Sainz Jr.
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Alonso yes but not Sainz. Don't fall for the Dad's politico propaganda...
Sainz is very much part of the silly season movements. And what about his Father, I haven't heard a thing about him, wouldn't know he had anything to do with F1 if you didn't watch it. All I hear is Jos Verstappen being a spud by bashing on others for the same mistakes Max has made.
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Old 22 Aug 2017, 13:03 (Ref:3760936)   #354
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Well not good for the sport, Kimi just collects points most of the time, we need someone in place of him
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I'd rehire him in their place. Why risk things with a possible lame duck?

What the sport needs to do is mandate that teams to run a third driver on Fridays.

If that was in place, then I'd draft in new blood if I was running things.
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Well not good for the sport, Kimi just collects points most of the time, we need someone in place of him
Last time I checked, the whole point of F1 to collect points, Isn't this is how both the drivers and constructors championships are decided ?
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personally, quite happy with the news. its the 2nd seat at Ferrari...they were always going to go for a known quantity who is able to collect points and instinctively know how to support the team.

side note...i dont understand the need for using fridays for third drivers.

it only became an issue after testing was curtailed under the guise of cost cutting and more often then not its comes at the expense of set up time for the actual race day driver.

fortunately more time is being allocated for in season tests...a trend i think will continue as Liberty starts to tackle the cost and prize money aspects of the sport.

that said though, i do like the idea that Prema has put forward (all be it not a new idea). being allowed to run a single customer car in the F1 championship is a notion worth more consideration imo.
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Old 22 Aug 2017, 16:30 (Ref:3760971)   #358
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No the whole point of F1 is to win when you can, get points when you can't, which Kimi does the latter far too often
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personally, quite happy with the news. its the 2nd seat at Ferrari...they were always going to go for a known quantity who is able to collect points and instinctively know how to support the team.

side note...i dont understand the need for using fridays for third drivers.

it only became an issue after testing was curtailed under the guise of cost cutting and more often then not its comes at the expense of set up time for the actual race day driver.

fortunately more time is being allocated for in season tests...a trend i think will continue as Liberty starts to tackle the cost and prize money aspects of the sport.

that said though, i do like the idea that Prema has put forward (all be it not a new idea). being allowed to run a single customer car in the F1 championship is a notion worth more consideration imo.
Why not a special session for all of the 3rd drivers on the Friday?
Engine mileage gets used up by everyone.

Not at every round perhaps.

An income stream and showing the track to some young fellas and lasses..
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No the whole point of F1 is to win when you can, get points when you can't, which Kimi does the latter far too often
Neither the WDC or WCC is awarded on race wins (despite Bernie's efforts).

Points earn teams money.
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