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Old 21 Dec 2010, 21:31 (Ref:2807138)   #51
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Bob Jane raced a 300S pre decimal currency, sold to Peter Briggs in the 80s maybe for his York Museum, then on to Germany.

A 2nd 300S was acquired by Jane also way back. Passed thru a couple of hands in Aus & was acquired by Mark Knopfler in the 90s.

Long time ago ....
Last I heard the car was in Germany. I'll try and remember to ask Bob today as we're interviewing him at Calder for the Drag Season launch.
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Old 21 Dec 2010, 22:13 (Ref:2807156)   #52
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But lets remember that almost every big event was sponsored (Goodyear Thunderdome) (Quit & TAC for Drag Nationals, as well as secondary sponsorships...), the place also had entry fees, gate takings, and there is a massive profit in selling fuel, beer, T-shirts & hamburgers at a race track


I don't buy the whole crying poor scenario one bit.
Quit and TAC were gone by the end of Thunderdome, if my memory is correct, as were paying spectators. Why pay when all you had to do was call into your local Strathmore Car Radio and pick up free tickets?

The prizemoney was still very generous (compared with circuit racing at the time) and I could easily believe Thunderdome was not viable. It's a pity though.

You would have to wonder what the interest would be these days, with the Ambrose influence of increasing the awareness of NASCAR. Imagine guest Thunderdome appearances nowadays by NASCAR drivers during their off-season.

Trouble is, you would need a oval in Sydney and/or Brisbane to maintain a competitor base. That sort of nearly happened at Lakeside...
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Old 22 Dec 2010, 00:53 (Ref:2807199)   #53
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Trouble is, you would need a oval in Sydney and/or Brisbane to maintain a competitor base.
Only if you had and/or intended to attract Sydney or Brisbane competitors. The VFL lasted almost 100 years on a purely Melbourne competition basis.
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Only if you had and/or intended to attract Sydney or Brisbane competitors. The VFL lasted almost 100 years on a purely Melbourne competition basis.
True, but the VFL was a long time ago (West Coast Eagles established in 1986) and where would it be now if it wasn't now national as the AFL?

In any case, football is like a religion in Victoria and has absolute blanket coverage, probably like nowhere else in the world for any sport so it is hardly a fair, real-world comparison.

The advantage of being national is that sponsors can involve clients and staff in several states, not just one, which makes it a better sell.
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Old 21 Dec 2011, 22:17 (Ref:3002935)   #55
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Time for the annual Calder Park Thread update

The Devil must be out buying winter woolies at the Boxing Day sales this year because Hell must be freezing over.

The opening round of the CAMS Australian Rally Championship is being held at Calder Park from March 1st - 4th next year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxa86...layer_embedded

More info can be found here http://www.rally.com.au/index.php?op...239&Itemid=199

The event will effectively be a stadium event using most of the National Circuit, Thunderdome, Car Parks and various access tracks around the complex in different configurations for the various Special Stages over the four days.

it's being designed to bring forest rallying to the masses by holding it close to a capital city without having to stand in a forest in the middle of nowhere with no real facilities for spectators.

There has also been a few CAMS sanctioned car club events held in recent times as well.
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Old 21 Dec 2011, 22:50 (Ref:3002939)   #56
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Time for the annual Calder Park Thread update

The Devil must be out buying winter woolies at the Boxing Day sales this year because Hell must be freezing over.

The opening round of the CAMS Australian Rally Championship is being held at Calder Park from March 1st - 4th next year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxa86...layer_embedded

More info can be found here http://www.rally.com.au/index.php?op...239&Itemid=199

The event will effectively be a stadium event using most of the National Circuit, Thunderdome, Car Parks and various access tracks around the complex in different configurations for the various Special Stages over the four days.

it's being designed to bring forest rallying to the masses by holding it close to a capital city without having to stand in a forest in the middle of nowhere with no real facilities for spectators.

There has also been a few CAMS sanctioned car club events held in recent times as well.
Don't you have rallycross for that? Driving four hours to the middle of nowhere is an integral part of rallying.
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Don't you have rallycross for that? Driving four hours to the middle of nowhere is an integral part of rallying.
Don't have rallycross in Australia (although we did have it, at Calder funnily enough back in the 70s).

This is an attempt by the rally people to expose more people to their version of motorsport as rallying has been struggling here in recent times. I'm hearing you on the traditions of the sport but I think good on them for trying something different at one of their rounds to raise awareness of what they do.
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The closest the general public normally get is parking all the cars at Fed Square and then driving them out to the forest to start playing properly and this wont grab the publics attention.

By having an event this close and proper facilities for the punters it might just attract a few to venture out to the forest to see it for real.

Here's a Coca-Cola advert from the early 1970's featuring Rallycross filmed at Calder Park.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8AQqKiqSp0
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In addition to the CAMS events, it now looks like ANDRA competition could be back at Calder as well.
ANDRA have sanctioned both 1000 ft. and 1/8th mile racing for the Pro Series and have already spoken with Ian Macarthur about running at Calder again.
I think that in both CAMS and ANDRA cases the injection of some new people may have smoothed the waters a bit.
Hopefully we can see State level racing back there soon as well so we can have more than just the ridiculous 4 rounds at present.
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Bob Jane raced a 300S pre decimal currency, sold to Peter Briggs in the 80s maybe for his York Museum, then on to Germany.

A 2nd 300S was acquired by Jane also way back. Passed thru a couple of hands in Aus & was acquired by Mark Knopfler in the 90s.

Long time ago ....
Correct ,same as the LWT E-type both were offered at the Auction in about 1980.
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That is an interesting find!
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Old 15 Feb 2012, 07:02 (Ref:3026020)   #62
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Time for the annual ANDRA drag racing to return to Calder Park


Non ANDRA sanctioned Top Fuelers running over an 1/8th mile their this weekend also.
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Plus Rally Calder the following weekend.
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Non ANDRA sanctioned Top Fuelers running over an 1/8th mile their this weekend also.
Judging by the number of cars in the Thunderdome car park tonight the action starved Melbourne Drag Racing fans have made thier way out to Calder Park in thier droves tonight.

According to Facebook In Pit Lane is out there so perhaps he'll give us an update on how it went/looked.
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Judging by the number of cars in the Thunderdome car park tonight the action starved Melbourne Drag Racing fans have made thier way out to Calder Park in thier droves tonight.

According to Facebook In Pit Lane is out there so perhaps he'll give us an update on how it went/looked.

Drag Racing has never had a drama pulling a crowd at Calder.

Missed out today thanks to a kids b'day, but friends at the track said over 200 cars entered and a huge crowd. Maybe 15,000?
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Drag Racing has never had a drama pulling a crowd at Calder.

Missed out today thanks to a kids b'day, but friends at the track said over 200 cars entered and a huge crowd. Maybe 15,000?
Calder Park are claiming 20'000 but 13-15000 would be more realistic.
Still a very good turnout.
Once again the same old problems reared their ugly head.
The time taken to clean up the track after even the most minor spill or centreline light contact was way longer than most other tracks.
Some of the Sydney media guys who had never been to Calder before said it was the worst they'd ever seen.
Darren Morgan admitted that the races tonight were just exhibition passes and they were just trying to get through without breaking anything.
Still put on a hell of a show though, but sadly I couldn't hang around for the after dark run as the vibration from standing too close to the cars has seriously flared up my back.
Also the new ANDRA CEO was there to try and broker a peace deal with Calder but speaking with Bob and Ian at the track they were not exactly in a conciliatory mood.
Bob was getting around like a 20 year old. An short, bent, overweight and arthritic 20 year old, but still he probably ended the night feeling better than me.
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Poor old Bob, just doesn't get it anymore I am afraid, it is not about him, it is
(a) making money so that the track survivies
(b) bringin in the paying customers (who buy food etc)
(c) brining the racers back to Calder


he just doesn't get it anymore, he still thinks people give a **** about the political in-fighting, but they don't - move on Bob FFS
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Was Bob sitting in his Winnebago on the infield at the startline?

I heard about the lengthy clean ups, in their defence your going to be rusty at it, when you've only done it twice in 10+ years.

Also heard alot of big gaps between runs, with 200 cars this should not have happened I would have thought.

Unfortuantly Calder seems to only still exist to serve BJ's ego. Maybe it's time for the decision making to be handed over to Rodney. It's worked for AIR, with ANDRA racing returning there after some upgrades.
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I heard about the lengthy clean ups, in their defence your going to be rusty at it, when you've only done it twice in 10+ years.
As a former Calder official who has been involved in many a clean up you'd be surprised how many oil downs occur during street meets and there are plenty of them held each year.
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Is there a number of personal agendas at play here?
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As a former Calder official who has been involved in many a clean up you'd be surprised how many oil downs occur during street meets and there are plenty of them held each year.
True true, but a clean up gets extra attention when the next car down that lane has around 8000hp!
Still way too slow though, somes guys complained of only getting 1 or 2 runs.

Highlight was a side by side 4sec pass will all the candles lit.
Crowd favorite was a 8 second Mercedes Vito van!

Fuelers to put on a launch display at Clipsal.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2012/02/21/...op-fuel-event/
Bit of promotion for AIR?
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Crowd favorite was a 8 second Mercedes Vito van!
You mean this........

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The first number shown on the lower display is MPH and the second is km/h


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Bit of promotion for AIR?
Would be good for Adelaide racers if AIR came back on line properly.
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Too cool.

Love the Heinkeken keg oil catch can at the 50sec mark.
Very 'Euro Bogan'
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Poor old Bob, just doesn't get it anymore I am afraid, it is not about him, it is
(a) making money so that the track survivies
(b) bringin in the paying customers (who buy food etc)
(c) brining the racers back to Calder


he just doesn't get it anymore, he still thinks people give a **** about the political in-fighting, but they don't - move on Bob FFS

That is a lot of progress in your attitude-- can that happen everywhere please?(no offence intended anywhere)
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Bump.

Anyone got anything to report about Calder Park??

I'm hearing noises on the rumour mill but nothing posted anywhere yet which is unusual.
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