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Old 26 Oct 2005, 12:37 (Ref:1443845)   #1
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Argentine GP from 2007? - Too many races?

Full story here: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34440
Apparently saying that Argentina wants to host a GP again from 2007.

With Fuji possibly hosting another race, Mexico, Russia, India and South Africa also interested we could see a season with up to 24 races in. Do you think this is too many?

If some existing races were to go to make room for others, which would you prefer to see disappear?
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 12:42 (Ref:1443852)   #2
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A season with 24 races ???

That won't happen.
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 12:44 (Ref:1443854)   #3
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Imola, Hungary and Hockenheim. All those tracks are not good enough for F1 anymore, due to the fact that they are too small (hungary) or the fact that they are not providing good races anymore ( Imola since the chicanes etc. and Hockenheim since its not Hockenheim anymore)
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 13:04 (Ref:1443867)   #4
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Ron Dennis said before a recent teams meeting that most teams don't want more than 18 races, because of the impact it has on the lives of their employees


Hockenheim always provides good racing, incidentally, although I could easily do without Hungary and Imola
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 13:05 (Ref:1443869)   #5
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There are consant stories about Spa losing its race (tragic), and it seems Imola has been on the list for a while, too. I would disagree with Hockenheim... I will admit that I don't like the nature of the new track compared to its classic layout, but it has provided good races in the past couple of years, has a good attendance and good TV ratings, and has a lot of support from BMW and Mercedes.

I wouldn't mind seeing Hungary off the calendar, it is such a boring track... but I would hate it for the Hungarian fans.
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 13:30 (Ref:1443896)   #6
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I wouldn't mind seeing Hungary off the calendar, it is such a boring track... but I would hate it for the Hungarian fans.
The Hungarians don't have far to travel in order to see an F1 race of much better quality.

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Old 26 Oct 2005, 13:52 (Ref:1443914)   #7
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Full story here: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34440
Apparently saying that Argentina wants to host a GP again from 2007.

With Fuji possibly hosting another race, Mexico, Russia, India and South Africa also interested we could see a season with up to 24 races in. Do you think this is too many?

If some existing races were to go to make room for others, which would you prefer to see disappear?
There will never be 24 races in a season.

I'd get rid of San Marino, Nurburgring, Hungary, Magny-Course (surely there's a better track somewhere in France, ie. Paul Ricard or Le Mans), and swap Indy for Watkins Glen or Laguna Seca.
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 15:44 (Ref:1444018)   #8
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There will never be 24 races in a season.

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Don't see why not.NASCAR do about 38 meetings from Mid feb-Mid Nov.In 1972 most F1 teams did 20 meetings. In the 60s some managed even more with 8 in Aus/NZ.
Less testing-more racing-if teams are paid per race I think most will opt for more races?
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 17:27 (Ref:1444099)   #9
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 18:28 (Ref:1444134)   #10
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There will never be 24 races in a season.
hmmm....famous last words. I seem to be doing a lot of hmmming today.
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 18:43 (Ref:1444152)   #11
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One of Flav's suggestions last year was scrap testing as we know it and keep the three day G.P. weekend by using the Friday for testing, Saturday for practice and qualifying and Sunday as race day. Sounds good to me.
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 18:49 (Ref:1444164)   #12
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24 full weekends away from families is quite a big deal for teams today - so many of their staff have young families. Workign during the week lcoally (as in testing) is much less of a big deal from that perspective. Teams need every mechanic working together in a well-drilled and motivated team today, they can't chop adn change as they did in the old days. And quite frequently back-to-back races mean spending 2 full weeks away from families, whcih must be torture. NASCAR isn't a good comparison because the races are all within one country, usually a short flight away if that.
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 18:52 (Ref:1444170)   #13
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One of Flav's suggestions last year was scrap testing as we know it and keep the three day G.P. weekend by using the Friday for testing, Saturday for practice and qualifying and Sunday as race day. Sounds good to me.
Does to me too.
But you can't let common sense stand in the way of millions of dollars of sponsorship money.
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Old 26 Oct 2005, 19:01 (Ref:1444186)   #14
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NASCAR manage to do a lot more races, often involving greater distances than the F1 circus and let's face it... selling sponsorship for 24 races is a lot easier and lucrative than 16, isn't it ? Here's how to do it practically.

Scrap testing.
Make the GP a 3 day event, with Friday confined to testing only.
Alternate fly-away races with European races so that you have a race every 2 weeks, but only a fly-away or European race every 4 weekends.
With the exception of the drivers, each equipe has two teams - one for flyaways, one for European races.
The only heavy travellers will be the team principles and the drivers... who, let's face it get paid enough to bring their families with them if they so desire.

So common' guys, nominate me for Max's job next time round !
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Don't see why not.NASCAR do about 38 meetings from Mid feb-Mid Nov.In 1972 most F1 teams did 20 meetings. In the 60s some managed even more with 8 in Aus/NZ.
Less testing-more racing-if teams are paid per race I think most will opt for more races?
Money is no substitute to missing out on family life. Or shouldn't be, anyway.
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