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Old 20 Feb 2017, 20:36 (Ref:3713514)   #101
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Richard my definition, and its only my opinion the McLaren MP4-7A is the most well proportioned and best looking car that has ever excisted, sounded pretty good as well..
That entire era is the best looking era of F1 cars, full stop. Nothing will ever come close to it again.

My personal pick is the Jordan 191 though.
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Old 20 Feb 2017, 20:37 (Ref:3713515)   #102
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Richard my definition, and its only my opinion the McLaren MP4-7A is the most well proportioned and best looking car that has ever excisted, sounded pretty good as well..
I can't fault that opinion at all. I became an F1 fan during that era. The look of that car is clean, simple, fast looking and sexy. I will admit the things I personally miss is the wider track and clean lines of those cars. I am sure others have different opinions that may be quite different and that is OK as well!

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Old 20 Feb 2017, 20:40 (Ref:3713516)   #103
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That entire era is the best looking era of F1 cars, full stop. Nothing will ever come close to it again.

My personal pick is the Jordan 191 though.
Great choice it's a gorgous looking car for sure ! 😊😊
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Old 20 Feb 2017, 20:44 (Ref:3713517)   #104
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Old 20 Feb 2017, 23:12 (Ref:3713549)   #105
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I can't fault that opinion at all. I became an F1 fan during that era. The look of that car is clean, simple, fast looking and sexy. I will admit the things I personally miss is the wider track and clean lines of those cars. I am sure others have different opinions that may be quite different and that is OK as well!

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Old 20 Feb 2017, 23:27 (Ref:3713554)   #106
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Sauber looks pretty. Hope it goes quick.
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Old 21 Feb 2017, 04:22 (Ref:3713583)   #107
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1991 was Peak F1 in terms of looks for the cars, imo.
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Old 21 Feb 2017, 05:09 (Ref:3713589)   #108
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I'm optimistic about the look of the cars. The Sauber is an improvement on last years Sauber.

Negatives for me: I didn't realise the shark fin was coming back, and I'm slightly saddened by that. I hate barge boards, so disappointed about those, and obviously we all seem to want smaller and simpler front wings, so that's a given.

Positives: I like big F1 cars, the extra aero is going to make them look quick, and some of the engineers seem to have a theory that they should be able to follow closely, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. The smooth and flowing nature of the cars looks better than I was expecting. I thought raking everything might look tacky, but in my opinion it does work.

All in all I'm expecting an interesting season, and hoping for an exciting one.
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Old 21 Feb 2017, 08:22 (Ref:3713610)   #109
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Negatives for me: I didn't realise the shark fin was coming back, and I'm slightly saddened by that. I hate barge boards, so disappointed about those, and obviously we all seem to want smaller and simpler front wings, so that's a given.
An interesting link was posted by MercedesF1 to an interview with an aerodynamics supplier, who explains the need for 'messy' front wings to allow cars to follow closely.

http://mag.ebmpapst.com/en/formula1/...ressful_11644/
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Old 21 Feb 2017, 09:21 (Ref:3713624)   #110
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Alain Prost wasn't the reigning champion in 1991. Pretty, though.
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Regarding the shark fins returning... they didn't really go away. Most cars last year had one, but they were MUCH smaller than what is on the new Sauber and the stillborn Manor. I wonder if the reversion to a larger size is tied to the lower rear wing (reduce turbulence?). Also, we have only seen three cars so far and it's hard to tell if all cars will have large shark fins. The Manor and Sauber do, the Williams seems roughly the same as last year (but is on the large size for 2016 cars), but smaller than on the other two 2017 cars.

With that being said, I don't like them at all, but as far as I can tell they are not regulated into existence (as they are in prototype racing), but rather serve an aero purpose.

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Old 21 Feb 2017, 12:14 (Ref:3713654)   #112
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the Red Bull livery will probably be unchanged judging by Max his new helmet

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I think I'm one of the few people who generally does like the sharkfins on vehicles. I like the way the Sauber one cuts back in towards the engine cover. That's aesthetically pleasing to me. I like the 2011 R18 fin as well, although the livery helped with that - and I like the P4/5 hybrid fin.

Maybe back in 2010 the fin was considered ugly because the rest of the car wasn't that bad, so the fin stood out more. Ok the wings were out of proportion but generally the cars had less winglets and the noses were quite pleasant looking. But given the absolute monstrosities that the current cars are, the fin is like adding a fire cracker to a nuclear weapon - no difference what-so-ever.

I agree with basically everyone who said late 80s and early 90s cars were the prettiest. Even late 90s were nice. I suppose those days and lines won't return, but I don't see why we can't get rid of the winglets again and return the wing proportions to 2008. That'd vastly improve the look a lot.
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The yellow is very striking. Be interesting to see how the black looks on TV, especially at a wet Monaco or Interlagos.
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It's rather dark. I've tried to brighten it up a bit.
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The yellow is very striking. Be interesting to see how the black looks on TV, especially at a wet Monaco or Interlagos.
indeed...i wonder to what extent the liveries this year have been influenced by the fact that races (depending on your provider and TV) will be broadcast in the 4k/UHD format.

what looks overly dark, or in the case of Sauber's not quite gold, on a computer screen will no doubt look brighter or more vibrant on a 4k tv..or in person for that matter.
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the Red Bull livery will probably be unchanged judging by Max his new helmet
they showed pictures of their freshly painted trucks the other week which suggests the same. still haven't worked out if it looks good or bad on the cars!
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Are they going with the matte paint again bella?
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their kit looks pretty similar to last years (maybe a bit more purple this year). surprised to see such a prominent Aston Martin logo on their team shirts this year.

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the trucks are the same matte blue (maybe a bit lighter) as that picture of verstappen's new lid posted upthread, so i'd say so

the renault looks a bit weird from the side - is it the combination of the rake and the engine cover fin pointing upwards?

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Thanks bella.. I am trying not to see the fin, it's a good looking car isn't it😊
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i like the fin, for some reason i'm thinking batman

agreed, the wide tyres and wide rear wings are really making a difference, they look like proper racing cars from the photos
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agreed, the wide tyres and wide rear wings are really making a difference, they look like proper racing cars from the photos
The exhaust and rear wing also looks very Batman like
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