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Old 7 Sep 2017, 12:35 (Ref:3765171)   #951
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Of course there is. Petit Le Mans became tradition much faster than 5 years. And the new unified IMSA is much less than that and has plenty of traditional dates already.

Silverstone for WEC/ELMS was a good traditional date, as was Spa before Le Mans as a LM test day.
IMSA has it's legacy though. It's a continuation of things that never stopped since the 60's.

WEC originally ended in '92?
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 14:25 (Ref:3765177)   #952
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Yeah, but it only took a year or two for Petit to become a tradition. Tradition isn't always about length of time, more about feeling. That's why there's been so much backlash over the loss of Silverstone - that and Spa was the traditional pre-Le Mans events. The 6 Hours/1000km of Silverstone pre-dates the WEC inclusion too.

WEC did have traditions. Did being the important word there. So now they need to rebuild a lot of it.
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 14:28 (Ref:3765178)   #953
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Of course there is. Petit Le Mans became tradition much faster than 5 years. And the new unified IMSA is much less than that and has plenty of traditional dates already.

Silverstone for WEC/ELMS was a good traditional date, as was Spa before Le Mans as a LM test day.
To be fair, the Petit has always moved around quite a bit from, roughly from late September till mid(ish) October so it's a bit of a moving target.

The Spa 6H have been held on the first weekend (Saturday) of May for the last 5-6 years with most of the previous runnings usually on the second weekend. No where near the traditional date like LM or Sebring but showing more consistency that the Petit date.

Anyway, avoiding date clashes between major sportscar championships (which both WEC and IMSA undeniably are) should be a bigger priority for sanctioning bodies. It would boost the sportscar racing market quite a bit!
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 14:33 (Ref:3765180)   #954
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Yeah, but it only took a year or two for Petit to become a tradition. Tradition isn't always about length of time, more about feeling. That's why there's been so much backlash over the loss of Silverstone - that and Spa was the traditional pre-Le Mans events. The 6 Hours/1000km of Silverstone pre-dates the WEC inclusion too.

WEC did have traditions. Did being the important word there. So now they need to rebuild a lot of it.
WEC put Silverstone at the start of their season in mid April, prior to the world championship it had more of a summer spot if I recall correctly. I've been impressed how the event quickly established itself as a fan favorite in often very unfavorable weather conditions. I always believed a post LM race in the UK right after the 24H (preferably mid/end July) would provide the biggest change for a successful sportscar weekend over there. Never understood why so much logic never led to at least a try at it.

And sorry for drifting of topic a bit!
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 15:21 (Ref:3765191)   #955
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Ian Dawson has officially re-formed his racing team and is planning on entering an LMP2 car for the 2018 season.

Add another entry to the DPi category! Wee!

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Old 7 Sep 2017, 15:59 (Ref:3765197)   #956
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G-Drive considering entry into the 2018 NAEC with a Cadillac.
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 16:01 (Ref:3765199)   #957
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Ian Dawson has officially re-formed his racing team and is planning on entering an LMP2 car for the 2018 season.

Add another entry to the DPi category! Wee!

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/da...s-sponsorship/

*EDIT* Cue the Ian Dawson Libra Hybrid jokes hehe.
Even money on that not happening. That's just Dagys reposting an Ian Dawson presser.
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 16:17 (Ref:3765202)   #958
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Hmm, a 3D, Cogman - AM DB11 V8 Transformer / RM Mk.30 DPi?







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Careful with Rusivno rumours. Most of his plans revolve around silver drivers. He almost left WEC when he got moved to gold, until he got Pierre Thirriet onboard. Driver ratings aren't really a huge issue in IMSA Prototype class, but he does change his mind quite a lot. G-Drive sponsored Caddy would look awesome though.
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Even money on that not happening. That's just Dagys reposting an Ian Dawson presser.
I mean, Dawson's record stateside is IMPECCABLE.
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Old 7 Sep 2017, 16:25 (Ref:3765205)   #961
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I mean, Dawson's record stateside is IMPECCABLE.
One of the best records I've ever seen in American sport.
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Careful with Rusivno rumours. Most of his plans revolve around silver drivers. He almost left WEC when he got moved to gold, until he got Pierre Thirriet onboard. Driver ratings aren't really a huge issue in IMSA Prototype class, but he does change his mind quite a lot. G-Drive sponsored Caddy would look awesome though.
With, Cadillac of Moscow sponsorship to go along with the G-Drive.






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If they got cash then maybe this time it could happen. Transformers is pretty neat to have involved. I've been wishing for years that Fast and Furious franchise would get involved. But nothing much doing there.
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Since it's Russian, can we put a dashcam on it? Nothing better than a Russian dashcam.
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I forgot that it was rumored that AMG/Merc had offered up a RM Mk.30 DPi to teams. Maybe D3 will be that team. Especially now that the chassis is getting an upgrade/re-homologation and is being proven out by Joest.


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It also says that the car was overweight by about 25kg, not the 50+ that was originally rumored.
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Talking to Renger at Road America, he said the Riley wasn't as stiff as the Ligier, and so that was effectively soaking up some of the power from the engine.
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Man I miss a lot when I am late watching races...

This sebring mess is just that. A mess. Great idea to be a part of the weekend, but starting at midnight is silly. If they were upset that the Sunday cota race looked bad because so many fans left, how will it look Sunday morning when half the crowd is either sleeping or packing up and taking down their camps? The camera views at the start of the race will be awkward with a traffic jam of cars leaving. The trail of headlights heading out the track will look like field of dreams on rewind.

The idea of a Friday race anywhere between 4 and 10 hours is best. That would be a great thing. Plus, if this relationship turns icy again, what are the odds the aco starts claiming their 12 hours of Sebring was the "real" 12 hours of Sebring and try co-opting it?
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Ian Dawson has officially re-formed his racing team and is planning on entering an LMP2 car for the 2018 season.

Add another entry to the DPi category! Wee!

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/da...s-sponsorship/

*EDIT* Cue the Ian Dawson Libra Hybrid jokes hehe.
That was one of the strangest press pieces I've ever read. Is there some other type of April's Fools Day in September??
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IMSA owns the track lease, what is even the point of saying something stupid like WEC stealing the race?
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IMSA owns the track lease, what is even the point of saying something stupid like WEC stealing the race?
That's not what I said? But a few years afterward if the relationship turned bad again the aco could start advertising their entrants as winners of the 2019 12 hours of Sebring and co-opt it as their version was the real one, thus marginalizing the actual 12 hours of Sebring from that year.
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That's not what I said? But a few years afterward if the relationship turned bad again the aco could start advertising their entrants as winners of the 2019 12 hours of Sebring and co-opt it as their version was the real one, thus marginalizing the actual 12 hours of Sebring from that year.
How, the WEC doesn't own the name, rights to the track or anything else that would allow them to claim their winner as the winner of the 12 hours of Sebring. Maybe the winner of a 12 hours race that occurred at Sebring. But they have no chance of avoiding being sued the second they advertised their winners having won something they didn't win. Exactly what he says down there.
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Exactly. I think they have to know that NASCAR would sue their asses is they pulled that.
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