New FR2.0 car

[bella]

so they won't notice the couple of hundred bhp missing then? :/

[pimbopap]

Expect an improvement in the lap-times of FR 2.0.....and forget about increasing significantly the power: without any structural modification the car would fall apart (already now some whishbones get stressedd.....).

And above all the team managers are so happy for a such cheap car creating so big budgets!!! (At the moment it is for sure the best money machine in motorsport)

[DSM]

Originally Posted by pimbopap

Expect an improvement in the lap-times of FR 2.0.....and forget about increasing significantly the power: without any structural modification the car would fall apart (already now some whishbones get stressedd.....).

And above all the team managers are so happy for a such cheap car creating so big budgets!!! (At the moment it is for sure the best money machine in motorsport)

Could you explain that further?

Which wishbones are stressed? (any more than any other race car). In what way would the car fall apart?

I don't disagree that any more power would be the wrong way to go but I would suggest the tyres and brakes would be the first thing to suffer from it.

As for 'cheap' how does the FR compare with other single seaters?

[Francis Albert]

Renault Sport introduced new, reinforced, lower rear wishbones. I think it was at the beginning of last season.

And I guess there should be a performance gain from improved aerodynamics. ...I doubt that they just designed it to look more modern and didn't really care to see if it works or not, but who knows?

[pimbopap]

Originally Posted by DSM

Could you explain that further?

Which wishbones are stressed? (any more than any other race car). In what way would the car fall apart?

I don't disagree that any more power would be the wrong way to go but I would suggest the tyres and brakes would be the first thing to suffer from it.

As for 'cheap' how does the FR compare with other single seaters?

As it answered in the quote after yours there were reinforced whishbones introduced already in the start of past season but still there are cases in which they break (I meant this with the word stressed sorry for the not proper use of the word in english), more power would mean bigger loads troughout the whole sturcture and failures would start to appeare as you say on tyres brakes uprights suspensions driveshafts gearbox (actually you do one season with the same ratios).
All in all you would have lots of new problems that means higher costs.
To give you an info the new version of the FR 2.0 will be around 48 000 euro ready to go (that's the force of having been building more than 700 off), and an F3 is around 90 000 rolling chassis (add 80 000 to 100 000 of engine lease).
I know that the quality is not the same but in the end for a driver and or a management what's the difference after the examples of Massa and Raikkonen they can jump succesfully to WS or GP2. (See Zaugg next season)

[pimbopap]

Originally Posted by DSM

Could you explain that further?

Which wishbones are stressed? (any more than any other race car). In what way would the car fall apart?

I don't disagree that any more power would be the wrong way to go but I would suggest the tyres and brakes would be the first thing to suffer from it.

As for 'cheap' how does the FR compare with other single seaters?

As it answered in the quote after yours there were reinforced whishbones introduced already in the start of past season but still there are cases in which they break (I meant this with the word stressed sorry for the not proper use of the word in english), more power would mean bigger loads troughout the whole sturcture and failures would start to appeare as you say on tyres brakes uprights suspensions driveshafts gearbox (actually you do one season with the same ratios).
All in all you would have lots of new problems that means higher costs.
To give you an info the new version of the FR 2.0 will be around 48 000 euro ready to go (that's the force of having been building more than 700 off), and an F3 is around 90 000 rolling chassis (add 80 000 to 100 000 of engine lease).
I know that the quality is not the same but in the end for a driver and or a management what's the difference after the examples of Massa and Raikkonen they can jump succesfully to WS or GP2. (See Zaugg next season)

[pimbopap]

Originally Posted by Francis Albert

Renault Sport introduced new, reinforced, lower rear wishbones. I think it was at the beginning of last season.

And I guess there should be a performance gain from improved aerodynamics. ...I doubt that they just designed it to look more modern and didn't really care to see if it works or not, but who knows?

Just