Nissan LMP1 Discussion - Page 47

TF110 · 20 Dec 2014, 23:54 (Ref:3486792)

If the exhaust is located just behind the front wheels, it should have a great affect on front downforce. Wouldnt it help with speeding up airflow?

Nissan LMP1 · 21 Dec 2014, 04:14 (Ref:3486815)

miatanut, you are quite ahead of the class!

MyNameIsNigel · 21 Dec 2014, 07:48 (Ref:3486831)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Heres my thought, if they have to have a gearbox in the rear, do they have to have it connected to the combustion engine? I didnt read through the entire regs, but if this is a possibility, maybe they can use a 'direct drive mechanism' to the front wheels with the combustion engine and the rear using electric power to a gearbox? Would that even be allowed? I know that some may think thats silly, but have a look at this- http://www.plugincars.com/gearboxes-...vs-129152.html. Theres an idea that has been on my mind that I wasn't sure would work. Itd be interesting to hear thoughts from you guys with more technical insight.

The engine (or "Power Unit") necessarily transfers its torque to the drive shafts via a gearbox. It has to. So, it is pretty clear - considering that the rules provide that the gearbox is part of the rear drive train - that the engine can only drive the rear drive train.

jc_nl · 21 Dec 2014, 08:51 (Ref:3486842)

I am no technician but don't a lot of high powerd cars use a transaxle at the rear with a propshaft spinning at engine speed?

Is that not an option because of the hybrid systems?

MyNameIsNigel · 21 Dec 2014, 09:40 (Ref:3486847)

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Originally Posted by jc_nl

I am no technician but don't a lot of high powerd cars use a transaxle at the rear with a propshaft spinning at engine speed?

Is that not an option because of the hybrid systems?

The road going Nissan GT-R indeed follows this approach with its front-engined, rear-mounted transaxle gearbox concept. It is not unreasonable to believe and expect that the Nissan LM GT-R could basically reflect a similar concept.

As far as the hybrid system is concerned, I see no reason why they could not integrate an ERS-K on the rear axle.

jee · 21 Dec 2014, 10:30 (Ref:3486857)

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsNigel

The engine (or "Power Unit") necessarily transfers its torque to the drive shafts via a gearbox. It has to. So, it is pretty clear - considering that the rules provide that the gearbox is part of the rear drive train - that the engine can only drive the rear drive train.

This might be the point where it gets crazy, but would it be allowed to face the driver rearwards in the car and only drive backwards?

MyNameIsNigel · 21 Dec 2014, 10:41 (Ref:3486860)

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Originally Posted by jee

This might be the point where it gets crazy, but would it be allowed to face the driver rearwards in the car and only drive backwards?

This rings a bell

miatanut · 21 Dec 2014, 14:13 (Ref:3486891)

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Originally Posted by Nissan LMP1

miatanut, you are quite ahead of the class!

Why, thank you!

But, I'll admit to being completely stumped how to reconcile this driving the rear axles through the gearbox rule with the logical approach of a backwards DW concept being front wheel drive through a transaxle, with electric drive on the rear.

I'm eagerly awaiting when we get to find out more about the car. As a designer, I really enjoy clever design solutions!

TF110 · 22 Dec 2014, 00:47 (Ref:3487027)

Heres a good picture of how the road GTR runs with its two drive shafts

kaivo · 22 Dec 2014, 17:21 (Ref:3487195)

http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/exclus...089256/+travis
is this real lol ?

Gingers4Justice · 22 Dec 2014, 17:52 (Ref:3487201)

If it looks anything like that, I'll be happy. The Panoz was one of the cars which grabbed my interest in sportscars over Formula One and anything which harks back to that is welcomed warmly by me.

I would take that article with a bucket load of salt though.

gustavobamba · 22 Dec 2014, 19:45 (Ref:3487223)

Now make sense what Mr. Darren Cox said about Nissan being the "Bad Boy´s"

If this is resemble with the real car… it´s fantastic.

Let´s hope the car is fast and reliable too :-)

TF110 · 22 Dec 2014, 20:30 (Ref:3487234)

Its not real. Its not an exclusive and its based on Mr. Fuller's article.

gustavobamba · 22 Dec 2014, 21:39 (Ref:3487245)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Its not real. Its not an exclusive and its based on Mr. Fuller's article.

To bad i was thinking this could be it...

rich07 · 22 Dec 2014, 21:59 (Ref:3487251)

It's Jalopnik. Take it with a rather large grain of salt.

J Jay · 22 Dec 2014, 22:02 (Ref:3487252)

It's an artists impression based on the rumours that have been speculated on. It makes sense that it looks a lot like the Panoz because that's the most recent (only?) front-engined LMP. Oh and the addition of the GT-R grill/front end, in a Mercedes CLR that's-not-quite-going-to-fit style.

Even if it doesn't quite match that picture, the GR-T LMP will definitely turn heads! I hope it has the pace to back up the looks...

TRuss · 22 Dec 2014, 22:19 (Ref:3487255)

No artist did that. That's pitiful.

LeMans.pt · 23 Dec 2014, 00:37 (Ref:3487277)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Its not real. Its not an exclusive and its based on Mr. Fuller's article.

Badly based on I say.... it's just a joke

deggis · 23 Dec 2014, 00:58 (Ref:3487280)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

I would take that article with a bucket load of salt though.

A truck load...

rich07 · 23 Dec 2014, 06:41 (Ref:3487324)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Its not real. Its not an exclusive and its based on Mr. Fuller's article.

It's pretty poor what they've done using Mikes article and passing it off as their own. I like Jalopnik even though it's a bit of a tabloid but this leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

TF110 · 23 Dec 2014, 07:07 (Ref:3487327)

I usually skip on that site as its mostly bad mouthing 'users' who know little on the automotive industry. It does have some ok content here and there, but definitely reached on this instance.

Deleted · 23 Dec 2014, 07:48 (Ref:3487345)

Absolutely horrendous 'illustration'. It's like I drew that. Thankfully it's just their cheap ploy of getting views to the site

TRuss · 23 Dec 2014, 14:11 (Ref:3487404)

It has a definite train wreck quality though. I can't stop looking at it.

CyberMotor · 23 Dec 2014, 15:05 (Ref:3487413)

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Originally Posted by kaivo

http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/exclus...089256/+travis
is this real lol ?

Amazing how many times Panoz is mentioned in this story about Nissan. How are they getting along these days?

Coach Ep · 23 Dec 2014, 18:24 (Ref:3487451)

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

Amazing how many times Panoz is mentioned in this story about Nissan. How are they getting along these days?

Allegedly Panoz has hired former Spyker CEO Victor Muller as a consultant in an attempt to take over Nissan-Renault. The Don was more than impressed by the o-so-successful capture of Saab and is looking to create his own 'David vs. Goliath' story!

Such a great, modern Christmas fairytale don't you think?

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