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Old 22 Sep 2017, 04:57 (Ref:3769207)   #426
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 05:00 (Ref:3769208)   #427
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well I hope a bit of colour adds to it cus it looks like a piece of poo now.

Than again, its not really a commodore to the traditionalists.
To be fair, Opel traditionalists don't consider the Commode a Rekord.
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 05:14 (Ref:3769212)   #428
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 06:28 (Ref:3769214)   #429
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Mixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
It is kinda back to the future in a way.

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Old 22 Sep 2017, 06:46 (Ref:3769216)   #430
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Bet half that time was unpaid overtime knowing the industry.

Looks like a good product, hopefully aerodynamically superior to the current car to bridge the gap in that department.
I'd say it will be,that rear wing looks like it's off a plane it's that big.
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 07:35 (Ref:3769224)   #431
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I'd say it will be,that rear wing looks like it's off a plane it's that big.
A stretched version of a WRX wing?

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Old 22 Sep 2017, 07:39 (Ref:3769225)   #432
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If it really is that big then i reckon there might be a problem somewhere else
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If it really is that big then i reckon there might be a problem somewhere else
It is a hatchback model too... airflows are different from a conventional 3 box sedan... does the racing version run a rear wiper?

There was mention elsewhere of Supercar aero tests next week, and that the team has prepared multiple aero solutions to trial to get to a signoff stage
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 09:15 (Ref:3769236)   #434
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Short decklid, like the Volvo. Hence the Wong being way out there.
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Old 26 Sep 2017, 03:03 (Ref:3769859)   #435
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Stanthorpe seems like an unusual airport to select if the surface is that loose that it damages the bodywork!


http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/09/26/...odore-qr-test/

Surely there are airfields with better surfaces closer to home or did someone not do their homework?
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Old 26 Sep 2017, 03:10 (Ref:3769860)   #436
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Availability may have been a factor.
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Old 26 Sep 2017, 03:15 (Ref:3769861)   #437
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Glad I'm not landing a plane there. I think this is a BS story.
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Old 26 Sep 2017, 03:22 (Ref:3769862)   #438
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I would be surprised if most country airports don't have sufficient spare time to do everything they require during the day.
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Team Dynamik found one to use for a couple of days a few years ago...
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Old 26 Sep 2017, 03:36 (Ref:3769865)   #440
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We did some standing 1000m runs there many years ago, lots of gravel and just past the 1000m there was a huge bump, certainly not smooth.
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Team Dynamik found one to use for a couple of days a few years ago...
Im just saying that a few years ago is actually 13 years ago
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A bit Formula Holden-ish, but louder, a lot louder...
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The growl is more pronounced on the videoZz

And so is the Sierra-esque wastegate flutter.
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The growl is more pronounced on the videoZz

And so is the Sierra-esque wastegate flutter.
I think they've done something with the mufflers to make it sound raspier than you would expect. Perhaps using baffled mufflers that remove bass and leave rasp (e.g., like a raspy Porsche GT3 or Cup Car) instead of typical glasspack ones that remove rasp and leave bass (which is what you don't want with a V6 turbo).

However, overall it still sounds a bit droney. Not a patch on the wail of the straight-six in the lovely Skyline HR31.

A mixture of these and V8s will be good I think, some variety, however I am sold on the idea of an entire field of V6Ts if the Ford runners also go the EcoBoost route.
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The crowd definitely went to the fence to watch & listen to that last demo from Mr Murphy! Mr Mintern was gee-ing up the crowd on the on-course teev as well.

It sounded great! Different from the V8 for sure..

Now if only Holden had brought along a ZB road car for the crowd to take a peek at
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I think they've done something with the mufflers to make it sound raspier than you would expect. Perhaps using baffled mufflers that remove bass and leave rasp (e.g., like a raspy Porsche GT3 or Cup Car) instead of typical glasspack ones that remove rasp and leave bass (which is what you don't want with a V6 turbo).

However, overall it still sounds a bit droney. Not a patch on the wail of the straight-six in the lovely Skyline HR31.

A mixture of these and V8s will be good I think, some variety, however I am sold on the idea of an entire field of V6Ts if the Ford runners also go the EcoBoost route.
imagine if the barra was still being built.

sounds like they changed the exhaust a little from the Cadillac setup. Little bit higher pitched.
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They keep saying the team isn't doing anything to the car, but the lap Mr Murphy is on right now... I thought I was hearing a Carrera Cup car
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They keep saying the team isn't doing anything to the car, but the lap Mr Murphy is on right now... I thought I was hearing a Carrera Cup car
Do you need an ear calibration?

I don't see (hear) how that is possible, the Carrera Cup cars are very, very raspy & high-pitched (maybe almost too much, don't tell the Germans that!), I don't see how a turbo can sound like that as a turbine tends to muffle the raspiness of an engine.
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It is out there again, demo-ing...
And still has a sound like a Carrera Cup car...

Not that its a bad thing...
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