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Old 15 Jan 2017, 10:20 (Ref:3702695)   #151
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Old 15 Jan 2017, 11:19 (Ref:3702705)   #152
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Old 15 Jan 2017, 17:04 (Ref:3702739)   #153
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Old 15 Jan 2017, 23:56 (Ref:3702794)   #154
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I think if was for the same reason that Brabham changed the name of his first Formula Junior from MRD into Brabham.

And of course why in UK Vauxhall marketed the Nova - which surprisingly wouldn't go down too well sur le Continent, hence the Opel Corsa.....
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Old 16 Jan 2017, 00:48 (Ref:3702807)   #155
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Same thing happened to Mitsu with the Pajero, they changed the name in all Spanish talking regions.
Although not a "genuine" Spanish word there are a few "Pajero drivers" about down here, and they are not all Spanish !! Obviously I'm not one of them
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Old 16 Jan 2017, 07:04 (Ref:3702865)   #156
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I doubt it's going to affect many of us on here, but if you want to exercise the old grey matter, just read through the new car tax / ved rates that are starting in April.....

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...r-industry.pdf
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Old 16 Jan 2017, 09:51 (Ref:3702890)   #157
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The Autosports Show seems to have passed by almost unnoticed - did anyone go, & if so, was it worth the effort?
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The Autosports Show seems to have passed by almost unnoticed - did anyone go, & if so, was it worth the effort?
One person I know that went said they a had a nice catch up with friends, but it's too expensive. And they arrived by public transport, so didn't have to pay the car park fee!
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I went and enjoyed it. But, As some one else commented on the RR thread, it's a trade show really so if you go expecting to be entertained you are probably at the wrong show. They do the live action arena I suppose, but I have not been to that for a about 10 years.

I caught up with some old friends which was good, missed a few others, sadly, but still managed to catch up with some of the news and gossip which was good.

There was few new series announced, like the "Z Cars series" for BMW Z3 and 4. Must admit that I think they are entering a very competitive market as at a similar price point for a car, you already have the established Boxsters and the M3 Cup, and there is the BMW 330 series and the (probably cheaper) MX5 mk3 SuperCup. As a class within one of the other BMW series or within Track Day Triphy, CSCC or 750 Roadsports it may work well, but I'm not sure a s a stand alone new series it will work.

The Thursday and Friday used to be trade and licence holder days, but that stopped a few years ago. A big shame, I think! I did notice a couple of chavs drinking Lager at 0830 on the Friday morning as I waited to order a coffee, whilst waiting fir the doors to open. Sigh!

I have started to get more interested in rallying in the last few years and there were a few rally cars and stands about but not many, which is a shame. I think RR attracts more of the rally crowd. Interestingly and annoyingly, the HRCR holds its open day and forum at Gaydon on the same day as one of the Autosport days. It would be good if it was at the same venue so that there was a bigger rallying presence at Autosport. I can't justify 2 days away!

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I doubt it's going to affect many of us on here, but if you want to exercise the old grey matter, just read through the new car tax / ved rates that are starting in April.....

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...r-industry.pdf
Looks like you get screwed over if you buy a new motorhome (or indeed anything over £40k list).
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Old 16 Jan 2017, 15:58 (Ref:3702955)   #161
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Looks like you get screwed over if you buy a new motorhome (or indeed anything over £40k list).
Yes. It makes buying anything over £40K and new after April 1st more expensive. Even zero emissions Tesla owners are going to have to pay £310 pa for 5 or 6 years- after the first free year. Then nothing again. All very confusing! BUT, wait 6 years and you will be able to run a 2017 vehicle with massive emissions (that for first year will pay £2000, then £450) for £140 tax, same as a VW Up! or similar will be.....

So simple....
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Old 16 Jan 2017, 16:03 (Ref:3702957)   #162
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ASI - about the same as always.

I heard an exhibitor complaining "there were too many cars on display." And Andy reckons there were too many trade stands. So they must have it about right

the thing about ASI is that despite its name it's not designed for people who take part. As Mrs MM said years ago, if you see these cars racing regularly they mean nothing just stood still. It appeals to the spectator.
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Yes. It makes buying anything over £40K and new after April 1st more expensive. Even zero emissions Tesla owners are going to have to pay £310 pa for 5 or 6 years- after the first free year. Then nothing again. All very confusing! BUT, wait 6 years and you will be able to run a 2017 vehicle with massive emissions (that for first year will pay £2000, then £450) for £140 tax, same as a VW Up! or similar will be.....

So simple....
By the time I can afford a 2017 vehicle it'll have changed again anyway so I'm not really worrying!!!!
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Old 16 Jan 2017, 16:06 (Ref:3702959)   #164
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Looks like you get screwed over if you buy a new motorhome (or indeed anything over £40k list).
Kit cars presumably start to look like rather expensive toys.

I hope that Ministers will contribute to the costs of their armour plated limos.
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ASI - about the same as always.

I heard an exhibitor complaining "there were too many cars on display." And Andy reckons there were too many trade stands. So they must have it about right

the thing about ASI is that despite its name it's not designed for people who take part. As Mrs MM said years ago, if you see these cars racing regularly they mean nothing just stood still. It appeals to the spectator.
I guess your first para kind of answers my question! The reason I asked was that in the past there has usually been two or three threads on here nattering about the Show, even if it was only to complain about sitting on the floor to eat an overly expensive burger! This year there seems to have been none of that, so presumably everyone was happy ...or did they just not bother to go?
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