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17 Apr 2013, 09:28 (Ref:3235717) | #1326 | |
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It's probably a V6, it's the best compromise and very compact, shorter than I4 and you can put the turbo(s) in the V angle.
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17 Apr 2013, 09:36 (Ref:3235721) | #1327 | ||
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any news on the hybrid system used, will it go toyota or audi style of storage, and will it be 2 or 4 whell drive
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17 Apr 2013, 09:40 (Ref:3235723) | #1328 | |
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There have been reports that the Volkswagen board decided the following strategy: Audi with diesel and flywheel hybrid versus Porsche with petrol and battery hybrid.
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17 Apr 2013, 11:53 (Ref:3235760) | #1330 | |
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It all depends on the size of the hybrid system. We don't know if Porsche will go for the 2 MJ or the 8 MJ hybrid option, or for one of the other options (i.e., 4 MJ, 6 MJ). If they pick the 2 MJ hybrid option, they might not need the power density of supercapacitors; in that case a much lighter lithium ion battery might be a better choice.
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17 Apr 2013, 14:44 (Ref:3235829) | #1331 | ||
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And from the category "pointless press release of the week", Porsche announce its first two drivers in the 2014 LMP1, and of course they are Timo and Romain.
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17 Apr 2013, 14:55 (Ref:3235831) | #1332 | ||
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17 Apr 2013, 15:26 (Ref:3235841) | #1333 | ||
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I'm not sure the value of the drivers can be over-estimated in the case of Porsche. How many 24 hour races have Bernhard and Dumas completed between them?
Yes, many of Toyota's drivers have spent time with Peugeot before, but still, most of them are relatively inexperienced endurance racers compared to Audi and Toyota. This is invaluable in a sport where experience is a massive part of the game. It's the difference between drivers who can say what they need and the drivers who can say what needs to be done. Their experience as GT drivers should also reduce the risk of crashing and losing time in traffic, because being there and doing that themselves means they can read the backmarkers better. I expect to see a Porsche LMP1 car finish Le Mans in 2014. |
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17 Apr 2013, 16:08 (Ref:3235851) | #1334 | |
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I guess, this is especially a marketing strategy. Or in other words: neither tech was selected because it's the best option.
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Romain Dumas y Timo Bernhard won many overall races in ALMS with Porsche RS spyder. I think they have an overall victory at the 12 Hours of Sebring. I remember many great battles between them and the Audi R10, the last hour of Petit Le Mans 2007 was one of them. |
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17 Apr 2013, 18:40 (Ref:3235900) | #1338 | |
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You have to laugh at the timing of the Romain/Timo announcement. No way that gets released without all the Webber stories floating around.
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17 Apr 2013, 18:48 (Ref:3235903) | #1339 | ||
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Agreed.
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17 Apr 2013, 21:26 (Ref:3235951) | #1340 | ||
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Ehm... you seem to forget they have won Le Mans overall in 2010 with Audi R15! The car was not the fastest one, but they did a great race, and were there when Pugs failed. They did a great race very consistent and fast. Then, we have to consider how much fast, reliable and winning they were in ALMS with glorious RS Spyder!
I'm sure they'll be a real couple of aces for next LMP1 team. Nice to see them at the wheels of an overall winning Porsche. |
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17 Apr 2013, 22:14 (Ref:3235970) | #1341 | |
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To be fair Porsche had to pick a couple of factory pilots to step up or that programme would be left open to question. A lot of strong drivers there but not LMP stand-outs.
Like I said before I think we'll see 3/10 maximum making the step. The likes of Bergmeister and Lieb simply aren't getting these seats. |
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18 Apr 2013, 01:40 (Ref:3236004) | #1342 | ||
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Lieb and Bergmeister already ruled themselves out (or they were told privately and Porsche allowed them to say publically their own way to save face maybe?).
But why wouldn't Lieb, Bergmeister, Lietz etc get a chance in the LMP1s? They've been fantastic servants for Porsche over many years. I'd give them a chance, certainly in 2014, a 'learning' year no doubt. |
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18 Apr 2013, 04:06 (Ref:3236027) | #1344 | ||
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And Lieb might still be involved with the LMP1 on the engineering side.
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18 Apr 2013, 05:30 (Ref:3236038) | #1345 | ||
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I also thought that (initially), but lately I think he (Lieb) will be more involved with the RSR program. They two programs are split both functionally and organizationally and so I now suspect that the 4 main drivers currently developing the RSR may land up staying there. Note that Dumas and Bernhard only provide a "supporting" role to the RSR program precisely because they are so heavily involved with the development work on the LMP1 project.
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18 Apr 2013, 06:44 (Ref:3236054) | #1346 | ||
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All the Porsche drivers have been at the Porsche Accademy, have been trained on all kind of cars used by Porsche in the various classes (GT and LMP). So, I'm sure Lieb, Lietz, Pilet & Co. are not fasting of LMP driving experience. I think they may be involved in the developement of the car, to be joined by 1 or 2 specialists Porsche will bring to its works team.
It all depends by the number of cars Porsche will run (2 or 3 in Le Mans, 2 in WEC). For sure, the most (if not ALL) the drivers would give an eye (or the right hand), to be at the wheel of a Porsche in Le Mans, as well in the WEC. |
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18 Apr 2013, 07:29 (Ref:3236063) | #1347 | ||
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I think I read somewhere that there will be 2 cars.
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18 Apr 2013, 07:41 (Ref:3236065) | #1348 | ||
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Yeah Lieb is coming across as the next Norbert Singer, he will in all probability be involved with whatever Porsche races in the future, still unsure whether he will actually race the car though.
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Romain Dumas/Timo Bernhard/Neel Jani Mark Webber/Nick Heidfeld/Jean-Karl Vernay |
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It all depends from what they think to do in 2014: race to make experience or race to win? Knowing Porsche, I think they are more focused on the second hypotesis... Then, I would not make on the same car three endurance unexperienced drivers like Heidfeld, Webber and Vernay. They may be fast, but I'm not sure they may compete at the same level of endurance experienced drivers. P.S. Heidfeld is a Porsche buyer, at the same way of Webber... If I'm not wrong, he's the owner of a 996 GT2. Is just a casuality? |
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