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Old 19 Dec 2016, 23:53 (Ref:3697259)   #501
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You could likely have the same discussion around the Daytona as well..
agreed. but it well inside my cut off time, its only saving grace. Runs class competitive times. younger than the RX7 also. But apart from its sound not sure it needs to be there. Invitational category now, unlike last time it raced.

Not like the field is desperate for cars
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Old 20 Dec 2016, 00:02 (Ref:3697264)   #502
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Honestly the thing is legend, bring it - run some demo laps, but racing it is just a bit pointless.

Like a champion having a comeback well past his prime.
Maybe we can bring back the Monaro, thats a legend also.

Funnily enough many of the people who would argue for the RX7 would, inconsistantly, argue against the Monaro (dont want those bogans attending)

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Old 20 Dec 2016, 00:08 (Ref:3697266)   #503
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Maybe we can bring back the Monaro, thats a legend also.

Funnily enough many of the people who would argue for the RX7 would, inconsistantly, argue against the Monaro (dont want thos bogans attending)
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None of the original 8 pilots is full time in a Holden Supercar any more... so might have to look further afield for driving talent
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Old 20 Dec 2016, 00:14 (Ref:3697267)   #504
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None of the original 8 pilots is full time in a Holden Supercar any more... so might have to look further afield for driving talent
alternately its all about "history and feel good" and providing entertainment through watching the same cars be lapped every 4-6 laps, so some of those drivers may be prepared to drive for "fun"
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Old 20 Dec 2016, 05:13 (Ref:3697283)   #506
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Will be good to see who gets named in the HTP car as well.

Maxi Buhk, Bernd Schneider, Dominik Baumann ?
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Old 20 Dec 2016, 06:33 (Ref:3697288)   #507
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Or maybe he's just smarter than trolls like you, and knew that an HTP run Merc was a good bet?

Let it go Pecky, you're sounding petty.
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Old 20 Dec 2016, 07:38 (Ref:3697295)   #508
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Maybe we can bring back the Monaro, thats a legend also.
The Monaro is not a legend of the 12hr though

No car should get into any race because it's a "legend" anyway

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Honestly the thing is legend, bring it - run some demo laps, but racing it is just a bit pointless.
Is it pointless to the guys preparing the car, or the drivers steering it?

Those guys want to compete in the race, and the entry has been accepted by Supercars. They won't win their class on pace, and will be doing alot of mirror watching, but if they are happy to do it, i don't see how it makes it pointless of them to race?

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Not like the field is desperate for cars
Maybe the organisers are desperate to have a full grid?
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Old 20 Dec 2016, 07:53 (Ref:3697298)   #509
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The Monaro is not a legend of the 12hr though

No car should get into any race because it's a "legend" anyway


Those guys want to compete in the race, and the entry has been accepted by Supercars. They won't win their class on pace, and will be doing alot of mirror watching, but if they are happy to do it, i don't see how it makes it pointless of them to race?


Maybe the organisers are desperate to have a full grid?
But its a legend of Gt and production endurance races at Bathurst. Newer than the Rx7 and quicker, would be perfect for the 12 hour, attract a lot of attention, help draw a crowd.
Surely, you wouldn't discriminate against it if someone wanted to run one? especially if the organisers are desperate to have a full grid (which they have never suggested they are)

Is this the biggest ever 12 hour grid, well done to the new promoters, must be doing something right
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Surely, you wouldn't discriminate against it if someone wanted to run one? especially if the organisers are desperate to have a full grid (which they have never suggested they are)
I would not have an issue in the slightest if someone wanted to run a Monaro & the organisers accepted the entry (it likely would be accepted in)

I never said that the organisers have suggested they want a full grid (I just asked a question of maybe they do?)
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I would not have an issue in the slightest if someone wanted to run a Monaro & the organisers accepted the entry (it likely would be accepted in)

I never said that the organisers have suggested they want a full grid (I just asked a question of maybe they do?)
Is this the biggest ever 12 hour grid, well done to the new promoters, must be doing something right
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Old 20 Dec 2016, 09:18 (Ref:3697309)   #512
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Is this the biggest ever 12 hour grid, well done to the new promoters, must be doing something right
They could be doing something right, I wouldn't know, and I won't be finding out
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I see both sides of the argument here -

Saying a car is a legend and awesome doesn't mean it should enter the race. A Porsche 962 is a Le Mans legend, but it won't be racing at the Le Mans 24 hours in 2017. And the BMW CSL is a Spa 24 legend, but you won't see that in next years Spa 24. So if you want your race to be considered one if the biggest and best, and attract the professional teams, then perhaps just admitting cars to the race for nostalgia and "well I like it!" sake isn't really the way to go. The Nurburgring 24 does it, but that race is completely different to any other race in the world, so maybe that makes a difference?

On the other hand, it would be a bit crap for the local entries to have supported events and series for so long, only to be dropped because the organisers want pro teams now. It doesn;t show much loyality to the little guys. Using the Nurburgring as an example again, it would suck if they decided no more Renault Clios and Opel Mantas, and be insulting to those who turn up every year.
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This race is going to have a lot of yellow. Whoever has the most hp going down Conrod and Mountain in the last 30 mins will win. Staying on the lead lap and having favorable BoP will be the name of the game.
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This race is going to have a lot of yellow.
Justification for the inclusion of VSC system at the event.

On the Monaro front - the car is eligible and would be allowed in the Invitational Class.
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On the other hand, it would be a bit crap for the local entries to have supported events and series for so long, only to be dropped because the organisers want pro teams now.
The current mob organising the Bathurst 12hr have form on the board in another area of motor racing doing exactly what you say above!
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The current mob organising the Bathurst 12hr have form on the board in another area of motor racing doing exactly what you say above!
and the RX7 doesnt meet that criteria anyway

however was the previous owners who got rid of the production classes, including the class the RX7 last ran in all those years ago, who had supported the series from the beginning, but naturally you have skipped that.


meanwhile I see 2nd place in the 2006 bathurst 1000 is for sale, would make an great invitational car. circulate at 2.10s all day. Could be right in the hunt at the end if the SC fall its way. Higher top speed down conrod and should be able to block in the other key places at the appropriate time
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No doubt you have secured tickets to the event Pecky?
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The current mob organising the Bathurst 12hr have form on the board in another area of motor racing doing exactly what you say above!
And the original B12hr management going primarily GT3 didn't?
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No doubt you have secured tickets to the event Pecky?
Nah car was rejected, apparantly my old XC Cobra mock up was not up to the invitational standard. So im not attending.
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Nah car was rejected, apparantly my old XC Cobra mock up was not up to the invitational standard. So im not attending.
The event just gets better.
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The event just gets better.
yeah I cant really attend anyway, a ten tenth posters threatened to punch me if i turned up and then stalked me online
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yeah I cant really attend anyway, a ten tenth posters threatened to punch me if i turned up and then stalked me online
First bit sounds familiar, but your making the second bit up
Now back to the topic.
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61 cars that is pretty awesome (and maybe missing a couple), surely the fears of some have been laid to rest. would seem last years field was more about new cars that couldnt race
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however was the previous owners who got rid of the production classes, including the class the RX7 last ran in all those years ago, who had supported the series from the beginning, but naturally you have skipped that.
The last time that Yeehah ran the event, 2015, there was a class for Production Cars, Class D.

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And the original B12hr management going primarily GT3 didn't?
Production Cars were still encouraged to participate in the race by the organisers after GT3 was let in, they even had classes in the race for Production Cars.
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