2017 VASC Silly Season - Page 97

Umai Naa · 18 Jun 2017, 08:54 (Ref:3744316)

JLB has the runs on the board.

CAMS and Supercars aren't interested in the opinions of the supporter base, when they make these decisions. That's the thing I, and probably just about everybody, am prepared to accept. You should as well.

**GTRMagic** · 18 Jun 2017, 09:13 (Ref:3744332)

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Originally Posted by mceci1

Kid has talent, but in my opinion he will end up like Heimgartner and Russell, sidelined and probably wont end up with another seat. Heimgartner has the most talent of the 3 and lost out, the first team can often set the tone for a career, for example, HRT and Lowndes, what is his statue known as now

Don't see the 'talent' showcased particularly well thus far. Even if the car is the worse in the field, the old fella took it to a year's best 17th not the young pup.

mceci1 · 18 Jun 2017, 09:31 (Ref:3744362)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

JLB has the runs on the board.

CAMS and Supercars aren't interested in the opinions of the supporter base, when they make these decisions. That's the thing I, and probably just about everybody, am prepared to accept. You should as well.

I do accept it but I don't agree with it. By the way, making an assumption is the biggest mistake one can make

mceci1 · 18 Jun 2017, 09:33 (Ref:3744364)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Don't see the 'talent' showcased particularly well thus far. Even if the car is the worse in the field, the old fella took it to a year's best 17th not the young pup.

That's true, it is being hidden a bit. He doesn't appear to have an outstanding talent I will say like McLaughlin, Mostert, and even Scotty Pye after his drive in that Walkinslow today

**GTRMagic** · 18 Jun 2017, 10:18 (Ref:3744427)

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Originally Posted by mceci1

That's true, it is being hidden a bit. He doesn't appear to have an outstanding talent I will say like McLaughlin, Mostert, and even Scotty Pye after his drive in that Walkinslow today

It is being hidden a LOT. The wildcards were quicker than the #3 at the last couple of events, and outraced it. Shouldn't matter if the car is slow relative to its peers, it should be capable of moving through the field on experience in the pitlane and the driving seat on strategy and consistency. We haven't seen that on the results page.

PS2244 · 18 Jun 2017, 10:59 (Ref:3744485)

Most of those wildcards would be running on bigger budgets and in much newer equipment the #62 & #3 are always bound to struggle

mceci1 · 19 Jun 2017, 04:45 (Ref:3745059)

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Originally Posted by PS2244

Most of those wildcards would be running on bigger budgets and in much newer equipment the #62 & #3 are always bound to struggle

Its self induced by LDM I'm afraid, poor choices have hurt them. In the early years they showed some hope, about 2015 in my opinion was the drastic fail

PS2244 · 19 Jun 2017, 05:56 (Ref:3745075)

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Originally Posted by mceci1

Its self induced by LDM I'm afraid, poor choices have hurt them. In the early years they showed some hope, about 2015 in my opinion was the drastic fail

Things starting going downwards around Townsville last season they looked good up until then

Umai Naa · 26 Jun 2017, 06:58 (Ref:3746877)

How long has Payce been on the #15?

**GTRMagic** · 26 Jun 2017, 08:39 (Ref:3746897)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

How long has Payce been on the #15?

sizzle · 26 Jun 2017, 14:29 (Ref:3746969)

Why the shrug, they have had a committment to Matt White for a third car for Fullwood at Townsville for a fair while.

**GTRMagic** · 26 Jun 2017, 20:31 (Ref:3747104)

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Originally Posted by sizzle

Why the shrug, they have had a committment to Matt White for a third car for Fullwood at Townsville for a fair while.

The shrug is to the Payce branding on the splitter
I don't recall it being there before either

T-star · 26 Jun 2017, 23:20 (Ref:3747132)

just look at who the co driver of #15 is for the enduros

**GTRMagic** · 27 Jun 2017, 02:11 (Ref:3747154)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

How long has Payce been on the #15?

It is on the rear wing also Here

**GTRMagic** · 27 Jun 2017, 02:12 (Ref:3747156)

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Originally Posted by T-star

just look at who the co driver of #15 is for the enduros

So the "works" Nissan team, in their lead car, is taking a pay driver?

sizzle · 27 Jun 2017, 02:52 (Ref:3747160)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The shrug is to the Payce branding on the splitter
I don't recall it being there before either

Must have been a late night. Didn't see the Payce bit.

simonracer · 27 Jun 2017, 03:23 (Ref:3747167)

I don't see what the problem is with having Wall in the car.

Out of the co-drivers who are confirmed this year only Steve Richards has actually had any serious success in the main game. As far as the rest go I've managed to figure out that only Paul Dumbrell, Dean Canto and Jonathan Webb have actually won a championship race without having a co-driver (and it was only a singular race for all three of those...)

It's not like all the other co-drivers were super successful in the main game.

Heck McLaughlin had Wall as a co-driver last year, and they got a 4th, a 2nd and a 3rd in the three races they had together where Scotty didn't crash the car. He can't have been doing too bad of a job.

T-star · 27 Jun 2017, 05:32 (Ref:3747186)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

So the "works" Nissan team, in their lead car, is taking a pay driver?

I didn't say that

**GTRMagic** · 27 Jun 2017, 07:07 (Ref:3747201)

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Originally Posted by T-star

I didn't say that

I didn't either, I am asking

one five five · 27 Jun 2017, 12:38 (Ref:3747280)

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonracer

Out of the co-drivers who are confirmed this year only Steve Richards has actually had any serious success in the main game. As far as the rest go I've managed to figure out that only Paul Dumbrell, Dean Canto and Jonathan Webb have actually won a championship race without having a co-driver (and it was only a singular race for all three of those...)

Stats like that kind of make you wonder what Bathurst might be like this year with Coulthard/McLaughlin going up against SVG/Whincup etc etc...

Umai Naa · 27 Jun 2017, 12:55 (Ref:3747285)

You could include Mr McConville, pending that deal actually comes together.

V8 Fireworks · 30 Jun 2017, 11:15 (Ref:3747943)

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonracer

I don't see what the problem is with having Wall in the car.

Out of the co-drivers who are confirmed this year only Steve Richards has actually had any serious success in the main game. As far as the rest go I've managed to figure out that only Paul Dumbrell, Dean Canto and Jonathan Webb have actually won a championship race without having a co-driver (and it was only a singular race for all three of those...)

When did Canto win a race? I don't remember.

Oh... It was one of the "co-driver only" races?

one five five · 30 Jun 2017, 12:08 (Ref:3747954)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

When did Canto win a race? I don't remember.

Oh... It was one of the "co-driver only" races?

I think he won at Barbagallo in 2006 in one of those ridiculous reverse grid races (Radisich spun out of the lead at the last corner)

A win is a win though

simonracer · 30 Jun 2017, 13:10 (Ref:3747966)

Yes, that is correct. Actually Dean spun him out after the Rat had a problem on the final straight.

It's at 3:20 of this video, complete with bonus French commentary (!)

V8 Fireworks · 30 Jun 2017, 13:23 (Ref:3747968)

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Originally Posted by simonracer

Yes, that is correct. Actually Dean spun him out after the Rat had a problem on the final straight.

It's at 3:20 of this video, complete with bonus French commentary (!)

Dean Canto drove for GRM in 2006 and 2007!? My gosh I had completely forgotten.

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