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Old 4 Sep 2015, 09:12 (Ref:3571300)   #1526
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Interesting that the ELMS (but not the WEC of course) will allow the IMSA approved engines!
Is this a joke? The world championship is a spec series but the regional series are open...

So a 600bhp, purpose built race engine is cheaper than a Nissan/Judd/HPD stock block that has been running for years? I'm confused.
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Old 4 Sep 2015, 13:54 (Ref:3571342)   #1527
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The regional series, WUSCC and ELMS, depend on the P2s as the top class, so it makes sense that they should have open engines.

WEC is looking for P2 there to be cheap, simple and profitable. I am sure whoever supplies the engines will be paying for the privilege. Is possible also that whoever is contracted to supply the spec WEC P2 motors didn't want to supply ELMS, possibly because it simply wouldn't have been profitable--too many subsidized leases, not enough exposure.
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Old 4 Sep 2015, 13:55 (Ref:3571343)   #1528
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If they produce such engine at the capped price, then yes.

Which might not bode well for engine reliability I suppose.

Could we see the current dominant Nissan engine return in 2017 in some beefed up shape or form?
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Autosport reports that five companies have submitted LMP2 engine tenders: Gibson Engineering, Engine Developments via the Judd brand, Mecachrome, “another surprise European engine builder,” and “a bidder from Japan.”
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Welp, Monday came and went and we got no new news...
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Welp, Monday came and went and we got no new news...
That five companies submitted tenders is new news.
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Autosport reports that five companies have submitted LMP2 engine tenders: Gibson Engineering, Engine Developments via the Judd brand, Mecachrome, “another surprise European engine builder,” and “a bidder from Japan.”
European> Renault.

Japan> Honda or Nissan

I'm sure the usual chatter will exist around other makes, such as Ferrari, Toyota, Mercedes, Porsche etc.... but, they will need to turn out a volume of engines, have one that fits, and be ready to go with reliability.

The Renault 3.5L V6 seems to be a solid, perfect fit... it might not make the HP they want in NA form, but, add on a turbo, and it's right there.

Yes I know, it's really a Nissan lump.

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European> Renault.

Japan> Honda or Nissan

I'm sure the usual chatter will exist around other makes, such as Ferrari, Toyota, Mercedes, Porsche etc.... but, they will need to turn out a volume of engines, have one that fits, and be ready to go with reliability.

The Renault 3.5L V6 seems to be a solid, perfect fit... it might not make the HP they want in NA form, but, add on a turbo, and it's right there.

Yes I know, it's really a Nissan lump.
Except that the ACO/FIA have said that OEMs need not apply.
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Except that the ACO/FIA have said that OEMs need not apply.
Yes, I know... Lots of other ways around that... Nissan, Renault etc.. can all funnel money, and resources to a private entity who've entered a tender.
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I thought they already said this would be a 4 litre N/A V8?
How about Cosworth?
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Old 9 Sep 2015, 11:31 (Ref:3572683)   #1537
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They mention 4 in the article so I wonder if the 5th is an aussie builder I heard rumours about.
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They mention 4 in the article so I wonder if the 5th is an aussie builder I heard rumours about.
There's 5 mentioned in the article, Gibson(Zytek), Engine Developments(Judd), Mecachrome(Renault) and unnamed European and Japanese builders, so we shall see.
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Whoever wins the bid, I like the sound of a 4 litre NA V8 - literally speaking.
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I completely forgot about that link.... Completely changes my thought process.

I'm betting on Cosworth then as the euro builder.

EDIT: I literally am guessing at this.
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There's 5 mentioned in the article, Gibson(Zytek), Engine Developments(Judd), Mecachrome(Renault) and unnamed European and Japanese builders, so we shall see.
The Japanese building is Mujer?
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Mugen excuse me!!!
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Illmor as the 'surprise European engine builder'?
That would be fun.

Chevy or Mercedes base?
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judd please no !!!!!! half the field will retire in the 1st hour
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AER has 2 engines that could fit, the 4 cylinder Indy Lights turbo and the GP3 V6 engine.
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So nismo is the Japanese tender and the "surprise European" one is actually an aussie builder, not sure why they note it as European.
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There are just one possible choice, Gibson. They have a lot of likely engines and they currently equip about 80% of the grid.

I'm really surprised about the lack of presence of Cosworth
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They can still power teams at Le Mans, ELMS, (prob) AsLMS, NASCAR-IMSA, grandfathering period, and LMP1, so nothing's really been lost, only the cashing in deal in WEC which just as the chassis supply deal was likely already decided in French bunkers last winter anyway and the rest of the "process" has been formality show

Judd would've been appropriately fitted for LMP3 supply if that wasn't totally spec too

I wish some theoretical P1 privateer would choose them, we know they can supply them upon request, and in big Vs too
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