Global Rallycross Championship 2012 - Page 21

The Eye · 7 Jul 2012, 00:36 (Ref:3103093)

You wrote :Anyway, enjoy Holjes and we will enjoy X Games. One is a brillant event in the middle of woods with 26k people on a real rallycross circuit and small TV audience. One is in the downtown core of America's third largest city on a makeshift rallycross track in front of 4 million people. One event has two world Champions.....
But' one in hospital!!!

And I Ad

tbtstt · 9 Jul 2012, 09:46 (Ref:3104086)

Great to read some good news from the Gronholm team:

http://erc24.com/2012/07/marcus-gronholm-2-updated/

Discharged from hospital and reportedly on the road to recovery.

rallycrossnl · 10 Jul 2012, 04:57 (Ref:3104443)

After waiting a week on something official or even rumors...
GRC championship is kind of a joke right now, isn't it?
Pastrana was robbed of a chance to score points during the Xgames because of different rules. ESPN ruled he couldn't run his teammate's car while under GRC rules that is perfectly possible (2.7.2). And while the Xgame result counts for the championship.... http://www.global-rallycross.com/201...hip-standings/
In GRC the lowest score is dropped (2.9.11)
I expected batteling lawyers challenging these conflicting rules. But so far nobody thinks this is a rather silly way to loose a championship?

Matt · 11 Jul 2012, 22:47 (Ref:3105386)

so, i see the gap jump is still there for NHMS....

tbtstt · 12 Jul 2012, 08:30 (Ref:3105466)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

so, i see the gap jump is still there for NHMS....

Now with added safety fix...

**FIRE** · 12 Jul 2012, 10:50 (Ref:3105517)

What was wrong with the table top? It still looked spectacular.

tbtstt · 12 Jul 2012, 11:01 (Ref:3105524)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

What was wrong with the table top? It still looked spectacular.

Agreed, the cars were still jumping and it allowed the racing to carry on for cars that had sustained damage and/or punctures.

Just need to build a "tunnel" underneath it so that the jump structure could form part of a joker section.

tbtstt · 12 Jul 2012, 17:17 (Ref:3105671)

Excuse the double post, but just read this on ERC24...

http://erc24.com/2012/07/the-big-carhoona-rules/

...and a few lines jumped out at me:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ERC24

...the drivers of the Swedish OMSE team (Foust, Eriksson testing for Deegan and Binks), of Scott-Eklund Racing (Scott and Hübinette) as well as Ken Block refused to jump their cars today.

And:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ERC24

During the ‘Drivers Briefing’ gathering Ken Block spoke for the competitors and claimed that the landing ramp needs to be higher than the jumping ramp and that the gap needs to be shorter than suggested. “We all need to work together to make GRC a success,” said the Ford campaigner.

Interesting that Block is the voice of contention for the jump. Can't be good for GRC to have a division amongst the ranks either. Statement of the obvious, but this is a situation they need to rectify sooner rather than later.

Aside from that, good to see a second GRC event involving dirt!

chasing cars · 12 Jul 2012, 17:22 (Ref:3105672)

Doesnt look like the GRC has learnt any lessons from its X-games debacle looking at that picture, and reading ERC24 it seems quite a few of the small entry felt the same, refusing to take the jump in todays practice, but yes at least some dirt!

I Rosputnik · 12 Jul 2012, 17:22 (Ref:3105673)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbtstt

Now with added safety fix...

Sigh... I don't see that working. I know tires are great for absorbing impacts but I don't see them holding a flying car back.

Plus it's worrying that there might be a split between the drivers over the jump gap.

chunder · 12 Jul 2012, 18:15 (Ref:3105700)

Most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.

Matt · 12 Jul 2012, 19:22 (Ref:3105721)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunder

Most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.

i'm fairly certain you have seen things more ridiculous in your lifetime.

sashchris · 12 Jul 2012, 21:25 (Ref:3105773)

Do the people running the GRC really not realise how close they came to a possible tragedy at x games and not understand how inexcusable it was to put drivers in such a position, having put two competitors in hospital already are they really thinking well lets just push our luck a bit more !
I can't understand for one how they can possibly be comfortable doing it and two in terms of safety regulations (lack of) how they get away with it.

Simon Slapstick · 12 Jul 2012, 21:34 (Ref:3105779)

Looks like the gap jump is also the crossover point... Is that new?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqeqKGCuv8&hd=1

chunder · 12 Jul 2012, 22:38 (Ref:3105820)

Really, truthfully, as many have already passed comment on, to go with this as a stop gap really does amaze me.

Two guys were seriously hurt, a lot of damage has been done to cars, and what do you get as an attempt, a load of tyres that if you hit them will just bounce the car away or even worse bounce it higher in the air!

Really, most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. Would have been bad as a first attempt, but now. Sorry

tbtstt · 13 Jul 2012, 07:47 (Ref:3105917)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Slapstick

Looks like the gap jump is also the crossover point... Is that new?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqeqKGCuv8&hd=1

You mean cars passing under the jump? Nope, thats not new. With the exception of the X-Games event in 2010 (XG16) and 2012 (XG18), plus the first round of the GRC this year (where there was no big jump), I believe every other GRC and 2 car X-Games rally event thus far has included a crossover jump of some sort.

Looking at the video though, it looks like the cars on the ground are driving towards the launch ramp for those jumping? Pretty sure that is a first as all the previous crossover jumps have had the jumping cars and those on the ground perpendicular to each other.

I await correction on my facts above now.

Matt · 13 Jul 2012, 08:08 (Ref:3105925)

wonder whats gonna happen when one of those cars screws up on the little yump before the crossover and hits the takeoff ramp...

rallycrossnl · 13 Jul 2012, 10:01 (Ref:3105961)

Indeed Matt.
That just looks plain wrong. Nothing to do with other sentiments about GRC being rallycross or anything. That little jump will cause trouble during racing.

Simon Slapstick · 13 Jul 2012, 14:43 (Ref:3106053)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbtstt

You mean cars passing under the jump? Nope, thats not new. With the exception of the X-Games event in 2010 (XG16) and 2012 (XG18), plus the first round of the GRC this year (where there was no big jump), I believe every other GRC and 2 car X-Games rally event thus far has included a crossover jump of some sort.

Looking at the video though, it looks like the cars on the ground are driving towards the launch ramp for those jumping? Pretty sure that is a first as all the previous crossover jumps have had the jumping cars and those on the ground perpendicular to each other.

I await correction on my facts above now.

Oh ok, up til recently I've only been a casual viewer of the GRC, wasn't sure how they'd run it in the past. Thanks.

**FIRE** · 13 Jul 2012, 15:00 (Ref:3106058)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbtstt

Excuse the double post, but just read this on ERC24...

http://erc24.com/2012/07/the-big-carhoona-rules/

...and a few lines jumped out at me:

ERC24 have removed this page....

tbtstt · 13 Jul 2012, 15:48 (Ref:3106065)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Slapstick

Oh ok, up til recently I've only been a casual viewer of the GRC, wasn't sure how they'd run it in the past. Thanks.

No worries!

I believe the first use of a car crossover jump in a rally type event was X-Games 13 (2007)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlu30OSGyd0

...back when X-Games was running with a 2 car rally "special stage" type format.

The first time a crossover was used in rallycross was the first round of the GRC in 2011:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-cCpjdo7eQ

However most of the chaps on here have been following motorsport a lot longer then me, so they may know of one prior to the above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

ERC24 have removed this page....

Can't imagine drivers not willing to race the full track is a great advert for the series, so I'm not surprised. Hopefully they can sort it out as I still want to see where the GRC goes.

**FIRE** · 13 Jul 2012, 16:17 (Ref:3106069)

So we don't have to take ERC24 and GRC serious anymore? It was not an 'explosive' article so I don't see a reason to remove it.
Maybe Eddi can explain the reason?

tbtstt · 13 Jul 2012, 16:25 (Ref:3106071)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

So we don't have to take ERC24 and GRC serious anymore? It was not an 'explosive' article so I don't see a reason to remove it.

True, it wasn't "explosive", but obviously it isn't the sort of press a fledging race series wants.

Perhaps ERC24 felt like giving the GRC a break.

rx-guru · 14 Jul 2012, 11:05 (Ref:3106304)

Just a server change for ERC24 and the latest two News had gone lost, lads. That GRC story was 100% revived last night. The Austrian retro story is more difficult to find back. So don't worry, be happy!

schanche · 14 Jul 2012, 12:00 (Ref:3106316)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rx-guru

Just a server change for ERC24 and the latest two News had gone lost, lads. That GRC story was 100% revived last night. The Austrian retro story is more difficult to find back. So don't worry, be happy!

Server change! That's good Eddi last couple of events website has gone down very frustrating waiting on our Lads reports.. Back to first for news

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