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3 Sep 2004, 20:05 (Ref:1086269) | #1 | |
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Porsche 917-20 "The Pig"
Porsche 917-20 "The Pig"
The nickname "The Pig" of this car is clear. Why did Porsche use this livery? (Where they sponsored by the Union of German Butchers? ) |
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Weren't the first 917 already nicknamed as pig by some drivers due to its difficult handling?
But still the Pink Pig is one of those cars that is hideous in a way it becomes likeable. |
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First 917s were called "The Ulcer". Pink Pig took this name given the livery and its "piggish" shape. The livery is done to reflect cuts of pork. The story goes that there was a competition between Porsche's aerodynamacists and the French consultant aero. at SERA inthe development of the 917/20. The SERA guys "won" and the German graphic designers took some offense and hence alot of liberty with the car's graphics...
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for any of you collectors out there, MINICHAMPS did both a 1/43 and 1/18th version of the car. they occasionally show up on ebay....
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Didn't the early 917s break in half a lot?
Or is that some other car I'm thinking of... |
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Don't think they broke in half !!!
Thought they were had to handle because of the very high speed they could do and dubious aerodynamic's that caused high speed lift. Nobody really understood to lift/ground effect's then and it was a steep learning curve, one driver (Jo Bonnier or Rolf Stommlen ???) was called to test the car's. He was amazed he was called but latter found out that none of the works driver's would touch the thing because of the erratic handling.......I think S |
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The story i know is that the 917/20 was a compromise between the well handling 917K and the 917L which was much quicker in a straight line but very hard to handle.
The result was a very wide and stubbish car which looked "like a pig".... |
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Check out the 917 site :http://www.cknet.org.uk/forum/default.asp and everywhere else that takes you - bound to be answer there
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I think its a magnificent looking car! Knocks the spots (pink one's probably) off an R8 any day...
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The 917/20 is one of the best looking sports cars ever built in my mind...
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lol - nice one Adam.
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The Woolfe accident, fatal, at White House in 69-the car did break in half, but that was after a huge accident.
Porche built new chassis for each race. They did the same with the 908 and 907. That is a great quote. Drive mit care! |
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A similar looking car, the one-off Matra 640 coupe, flipped in testing.
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that story, according to most porsche books, is true. Factory drivers were not very keen about testing and racing the 917 in the begining of its development because its fearsome behaviour and power. Brian Redman was called from weissach to test, and himself called Jo Siffert to ask why, and was answered jokingly that: "we let the others find out what breaks first..." (Redman himself refused after hearing that...)
Most intriguing is the fact that, as David Piper said, if I remember correctly, the short tail aerodynamics that cured that problem was "inspired" by that of Piper´s Lola T 70... |
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