Jerez Testing (updated 14/01/05) - Page 2

ralf fan · 12 Jan 2005, 18:32 (Ref:1199157)

Are Renault running a hybrid as well? or are they on 04 specifications?

Super Tourer · 12 Jan 2005, 18:39 (Ref:1199165)

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Originally Posted by ralf fan

Are Renault running a hybrid as well? or are they on 04 specifications?

I think they are running in largely 2004 spec.

Rich R · 12 Jan 2005, 19:06 (Ref:1199199)

pizzonia over 1 second slower than webber then. i know it's testing and you can't read too much into it but that's still a big gap.

KE30MAN · 12 Jan 2005, 23:14 (Ref:1199439)

I think Antonio had some mechanical gremlins but having said that I think Nick is looking too good.

Kirk · 13 Jan 2005, 18:01 (Ref:1200046)

Pizzo has called this the most important month of his career, and he is driving like it. Today's gap is minimal and I'm certain at this point that he and Nick will be driving the same specs:
4. Nick Heidfeld (Williams BMW) - 1'17"036 - 146 laps
5. Antonio Pizzonia (Williams BMW) - 1'17"165 - 94 laps

Super Tourer · 13 Jan 2005, 19:29 (Ref:1200136)

Testing 13/01/05

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1 R. Zonta Toyota 01:16:672 101
2 K. Räikkönen McLaren 01:16:814 124
3 JP. Montoya McLaren 01:16:946 92
4 N. Heidfeld Williams 01:17:036 146
5 A. Pizzonia Williams 01:17:165 94
6 F. Montagny Renault 01:18:055 118
7 J. Trulli Toyota 01:18:423 95
8 E. Bernoldi BAR 01:18:589 72
9 J. Button BAR 01:18:897 110
10 M. Gené Ferrari 01:19:044 107

http://www.f1racing.net/en/testresults.php?testID=187

Zonta was in an evolution of the 2004 car, Trulli was running the 2005 TF105,

Kicking-back · 13 Jan 2005, 19:52 (Ref:1200158)

Look - Raikkonen was 0.1 faster in their first test together.

That's Montoya's career over.

[ /SARCASM OFF ]

Kirk · 13 Jan 2005, 20:03 (Ref:1200176)

Don't underestimate Kimi, its 0.132 faster.

The anticipation of these two running with no team orders is quite exciting.

Super Tourer · 13 Jan 2005, 20:25 (Ref:1200205)

Just under 2 secs between more or less 2004 spec v early running of 2005 spec, I suspect it will be less by the time we get to Melbourne.

Kicking-back · 13 Jan 2005, 20:30 (Ref:1200208)

But everyone at that test will be running on the same spec tyres, potentially, rather than 2004 cars on 2004 tyres and 2005 cars on 2005 tyres - that will account for a slightly bigger deficit between last year to this in terms of average race pace.

mac · 13 Jan 2005, 21:41 (Ref:1200269)

I don't know what to make of the Williams duo there. I still like Nick, but the fact that Pizzonia is so close to him might save the Brazilian.

Williams has been very loyal to Pizzonia, and that could certainly play in his favour.

jhansen · 13 Jan 2005, 22:37 (Ref:1200322)

Pizzonia did nothing to impress while at Jaguar regardless of whatever team oriented stuff was going on. He also didn't do much in the few '04 races he did.

I'd like to see Heidfeld get the nod. He and Webber could do a lot to develop the '05 Williams.

Silk Cut Jaguar · 14 Jan 2005, 02:14 (Ref:1200473)

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Originally Posted by Super Tourer

Zonta was in an evolution of the 2004 car, Trulli was running the 2005 TF105,

What car was Kimi running?

I'll admit I'm a Toyota fan and seeing them at the top of testing is enough to make me declare them 2005 WCC

Super Tourer · 14 Jan 2005, 09:04 (Ref:1200643)

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Originally Posted by mac

I don't know what to make of the Williams duo there. I still like Nick, but the fact that Pizzonia is so close to him might save the Brazilian.

Williams has been very loyal to Pizzonia, and that could certainly play in his favour.

But, BMW overall pay around 50% of FW's bills and are their biggest sponsor as well as their 'engine partner', they asked (for that read told) Williams to test Heidfeld and they are impressed with him. IMO all Nick has to do is at least match Pizzonia and perform well relative to Webber and the job is his.

I don't buy all the rhetoric about 'it's up to Frank', if I were writing out a cheque for $150M investment in Williams per year and one of the key things on getting a return on it is the drivers - I would want a heavy say in it!

If they are evenly matched then other factors like Pizzonia's performance relative to Webber at Jaguar, his lack of race experience relative to Heidfeld and a question mark over his mental fragility will count against him.

In other words, Pizzonia is a bigger overall risk, when Williams cannot afford another year like 2004.

Mark Webber · 14 Jan 2005, 11:08 (Ref:1200744)

I think the same thing ST

ljakse · 14 Jan 2005, 13:47 (Ref:1200883)

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Originally Posted by Silk Cut Jaguar

What car was Kimi running?

MP4-19B with 2005 aerodinamics, and so was Montoya.

Super Tourer · 14 Jan 2005, 19:31 (Ref:1201093)

14/01/05

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1 A. Wurz McLaren 01:16:052 102
2 JP. Montoya McLaren 01:16:558 102
3 N. Heidfeld Williams 01:16:736 11
4 A. Pizzonia Williams 01:17:070 125
5 R. Zonta Toyota 01:17:305 162
6 J. Trulli Toyota 01:18:048 75
7 M. Gené Ferrari 01:18:475 50

CleanTone · 14 Jan 2005, 20:59 (Ref:1201194)

heidfeld 11 laps and better than pizzaboy? hmm any difference in cars?

flor · 15 Jan 2005, 00:05 (Ref:1201293)

NH had 117 laps

mac · 16 Jan 2005, 22:34 (Ref:1202570)

At the end of the day, both Williams and BMW want the fastest driver - it's not a matter of who pays what.

They both want the best results, and as Nick appears to have been quicker, he should end up with the drive.

Super Tourer · 17 Jan 2005, 08:44 (Ref:1202786)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac

At the end of the day, both Williams and BMW want the fastest driver - it's not a matter of who pays what.

They both want the best results, and as Nick appears to have been quicker, he should end up with the drive.

Quite agree, but other factors will come into the equation if they are evenly matched throughout the tests.

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