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14 Nov 2010, 16:27 (Ref:2790340)
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14 Nov 2010, 16:28 (Ref:2790342)
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14 Nov 2010, 16:29 (Ref:2790345)
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I heard "Fartmeister" too, for what it's worth.
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14 Nov 2010, 16:31 (Ref:2790346)
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AHHh Weltmeister - that makes sense!
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14 Nov 2010, 16:33 (Ref:2790348)
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Fart Meister would have been funnier !
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14 Nov 2010, 16:37 (Ref:2790351)
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I neither like or dislike Vettel but the fact remains that he was the most consistant during the course of the season and several times showed blistering pace the others just couldnt match. In my opinion he is a deserving world champion although he isnt who I wanted to win the Championship, personally I would have preffered Alonso or Hamilton.
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14 Nov 2010, 16:39 (Ref:2790353)
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 Pole position in over 50% of the races Won 25% of the races Reliability issues in (just under) 25% of the races. What is undeserving about that? He may have had 2 accidents, but then so did Webber and Hamilton. |
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14 Nov 2010, 16:41 (Ref:2790357)
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In all honesty I was hoping, praying that Webber would do it but Korea was his downfall. The thing that has put me off Vettel this season was the way everyone started on MW after the collision in Turkey, which was SV's fault and SV, taking out Button at Spa. They were the key factors for me this season that made me not want Vettel to win it. Last season, I liked Seb, fighting with Rubens and Jenson for the title but this season he looked, well, average I thought and getting into silly scrapes and bumps. Yes, all the other contenders made mistakes, MW - Valencia, LH - Italy etc but the way Vettel has been believing his own hype made him make the silly mistakes as he was pushing too hard. |
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14 Nov 2010, 16:46 (Ref:2790366)
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In answer to the thread title. Yes he did.
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14 Nov 2010, 16:47 (Ref:2790369)
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It's funny how I thought that having Button slip out of title contention in the penultimate round was perfect for McLaren, allowing them to concentrate fully on aiding Hamilton to the gold. It transpires that I was wrong. Lewis Hamilton needed a lot of luck to win not only the race, but the championship, today. Even with two of Alonso, Webber and Vettel out of the picture he would have struggled.
Fernando Alonso looked, perhaps rightly, quite calm ahead of the grand prix. In theory he had the least work to do. But when the lights went out and Schumacher and Liuzzi's crash caused the Red Bulls to split, with Webber heading for fresh tyres but Vettel staying out on track, it suddenly became clear that the Spaniard would have his work cut out covering himself against both of his rivals. Webber's strategy didn't work out, but he's found another level this season and generally excelled himself. What's more, he inadvertently stole the attention of the Scuderia in the race, allowing Vettel the freedom to get the job done at the front of the pack. For Alonso, following Webber's lead into the pits was costly. But Vettel, not for the first time this season, did everything that he had to do to keep his head above water. It was a faultless drive. Others floundered out there today. Hamilton couldn't pass Kubica and Alonso couldn't pass the usually less-imposing Petrov. The almighty Alonso has been shown up by some guy who effectively bought his seat on the grid and who might not have a job this time tomorrow. Good effort. Webber, sadly, never really found the pace he needed. So I ask you: which of these three titans of the sport deserved the title more than Vettel today? |
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14 Nov 2010, 16:58 (Ref:2790382)
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Seb's matured over the second half of the season. He was indeed a cock to begin with but he's handled himself well lately
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14 Nov 2010, 17:32 (Ref:2790417)
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Well that didn't take long for the negative stuff to start did it...! Shame on the OP for even suggesting it.......of course he deserved to win the title - consistency is key, with his Saturday performances setting up his Sunday chances.......well done Sebastian and Red Bull.....
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14 Nov 2010, 17:38 (Ref:2790421)
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 Only joking of course, but Seb has done exactly what he's been paid to do, which 23 other drivers didn't do! |
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14 Nov 2010, 17:51 (Ref:2790433)
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Unless you're only counting those who completed a full season....in which case it's 19...... 
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14 Nov 2010, 19:12 (Ref:2790480)
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The World Championship is about getting more points than the competition: and that is what Vettel did. More points than Webber. More points than Alonso (including the donation from Massa). More points than Hamilton. I could go on. He didn't luck into anything either: apart from his won mistakes (roughly the same as every other contender) he had more mechanical unreliability than any of the other contenders. Definitely a deserving winner, I would say.
And isn't it a good job that Red Bull didn't apply some surrepticious team orders in Brazil, as many people said they should have? That would have left Seb with 7 fewer points and Alonso would be world champion. So huge congratulations to Red Bull too, for having the confidence and integrity to let their drivers race, and not be sucked into playing Ferrari at their own game. It would have been so ironic if Alonso had got the championship because Red Bull had sunk to their level. Incidentally, did anyone notice that Ferrari's shenanigans had absolutely zero result on the final standings? With seven points fewer, Alonso is still second. With seven points more, Massa is still sixth. 
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14 Nov 2010, 19:31 (Ref:2790498)
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5 wins, as many as Alonso, more than Hamilton, Button and Webber.
3 fastest laps, 10 poles and most of his wins were flag to flag. Did he have a good car? Yes. Did he make mistakes? Yes. But so did the others. Did he handle the pressure well in the latter half of the season? Yes. Did he outscore every other driver? Yes. How can he be undeserving? He wasn't my sentimental favourite for the title but he deserves it. Absolutely. |
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14 Nov 2010, 19:33 (Ref:2790500)
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In fairness to the OP, this was a post of his separated from another thread and made it into this one. So it's not as though he started a thread to say that.
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Surely this thread should have been titled...Did Vettle deserve to be Champion?
And the answer would have been, and is...Yes! |
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Well done. But I guess we all settled down about this one...
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14 Nov 2010, 21:21 (Ref:2790584)
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There's no such thing as an "undeserving champion". Period.
Vettel would have won it a long time ago had it not been for reliability retirements. He's had the worst luck in the season so far, so he DOES deserve it imo. He's been the fastest driver all year. 10 poles - you can't argue with that. |
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"There's no such thing as an "undeserving champion". Period." There you have it, well said! deserves the championship on the last race alone, and yet he won it on a whole season - nuff said. |
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