Team Haas: Gene Haas of NASCAR attempting to start F1 team - Page 24

wnut · 16 Feb 2015, 21:47 (Ref:3505578)

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Originally Posted by wdave0

Ferrari's tunnel was not faulty, Toyota's backup WT was, as well as Ferrari's aerodynamicists' brains

The backup wind tunnels lack of accuracy; given that it would have been checked against the primary wind tunnel; probably neatly explains Toyota's stellar success despite spending billions in F1!

wnut · 17 Feb 2015, 01:41 (Ref:3505655)

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Originally Posted by wdave0

Ferrari's tunnel was not faulty, Toyota's backup WT was, as well as Ferrari's aerodynamicists' brains

Just as a point, confused maybe, I thought that Ferrari only hired the Toyota tunnel because the Ferrari tunnel was not correctly calibrated??

**chunterer** · 17 Feb 2015, 07:43 (Ref:3505706)

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Originally Posted by climb

Just as a point, confused maybe, I thought that Ferrari only hired the Toyota tunnel because the Ferrari tunnel was not correctly calibrated??

That was the line put out out there, yes, but it must have been far worse.

Mike Harte · 17 Feb 2015, 10:08 (Ref:3505743)

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Originally Posted by climb

Just as a point, confused maybe, I thought that Ferrari only hired the Toyota tunnel because the Ferrari tunnel was not correctly calibrated??

Yes, the Ferrari wind tunnel had to be reconfigured/rebuilt because the calibration was incorrect.

goingjag · 23 Feb 2015, 03:47 (Ref:3507914)

Well one thing for sure Haas should be able to turn around machined parts quickly. Maybe he can even build some error into the machines he sells to other teams parts suppliers so they'll be less reliable.

It's probably the only way they'll be anything but last place next year. Can't understand why he didn't buy one of the two dieing teams.

djinvicta · 23 Feb 2015, 10:36 (Ref:3507993)

Because of the defunked Teams huge debts.

Casper · 23 Feb 2015, 13:51 (Ref:3508028)

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Originally Posted by goingjag

Well one thing for sure Haas should be able to turn around machined parts quickly. Maybe he can even build some error into the machines he sells to other teams parts suppliers so they'll be less reliable.

It's probably the only way they'll be anything but last place next year. Can't understand why he didn't buy one of the two dieing teams.

Perhaps because he knows more than you about the problems of both? I am sure I have read where he expects nothing out of next year besides being on the grid. Why the vitriol about his team being last?

goingjag · 23 Feb 2015, 21:53 (Ref:3508154)

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Originally Posted by Casper

Perhaps because he knows more than you about the problems of both? I am sure I have read where he expects nothing out of next year besides being on the grid. Why the vitriol about his team being last?

Very likely he knows a lot more than me about their problems, however looking at the failures of Windsor's attempt at an US team (you have to admit he knows a lot about F1), I still feel that given his money and the cost of buying one of those teams he could have done that and used this year as his throw away year to learn things and help develop the 2016 car.

Nothing beats being there, no matter how many questions he asks his engine supplier.

I have no issue with Haas being a backmarker, I just feel they could have learned a lot for what would be comparatively little cost.

A look back at what Stewart Racing went through shows that nothing beats having a car in the pits to learn what it takes.

Plus it would have added a couple more cars to the field for us to watch.

Casper · 24 Feb 2015, 11:18 (Ref:3508352)

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Originally Posted by goingjag

Very likely he knows a lot more than me about their problems, however looking at the failures of Windsor's attempt at an US team (you have to admit he knows a lot about F1), I still feel that given his money and the cost of buying one of those teams he could have done that and used this year as his throw away year to learn things and help develop the 2016 car.

Nothing beats being there, no matter how many questions he asks his engine supplier.

I have no issue with Haas being a backmarker, I just feel they could have learned a lot for what would be comparatively little cost.

A look back at what Stewart Racing went through shows that nothing beats having a car in the pits to learn what it takes.

Plus it would have added a couple more cars to the field for us to watch.

The way things are going it would not be surprising if he pulled the plug on it all and by not buying anything at this stage he has nothing to liquidate if he backs out.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 24 Feb 2015, 15:23 (Ref:3508423)

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Originally Posted by Casper

The way things are going it would not be surprising if he pulled the plug on it all and by not buying anything at this stage he has nothing to liquidate if he backs out.

I thought he had bought some of Marussia's stock/equipment at the auction?

Mike Harte · 24 Feb 2015, 16:27 (Ref:3508448)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I thought he had bought some of Marussia's stock/equipment at the auction?

I think that Haas, or his minions, were considering making bids for some of the items that were due to be auctioned in January (the stuff that went before was, in the main, just marketing junk), but as the auction was pulled, he presumably lost that option.

Unless, of course, he is actually the secret investor behind the present bid to bring Manor F1 to a track in short order.

old man · 10 Mar 2015, 17:39 (Ref:3513752)

More staff appointed by Haas according to Autosport, Ben Agathangelou, Aerodynamicist and Dave O'Neill. (we saw that about Dave O'Neill back in mid January, why put it out as news now?)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117987

kurski · 26 Apr 2015, 20:12 (Ref:3531012)

IndyCar commentator Townsend Bell speculating that Haas F1 Team would be interested in Josef Newgarden.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 26 Apr 2015, 20:16 (Ref:3531014)

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Originally Posted by kurski

IndyCar commentator Townsend Bell speculating that Haas F1 Team would be interested in Josef Newgarden.

I heard that as well. I wonder who else is being considered?

ECW Dan Selby · 27 Apr 2015, 22:42 (Ref:3531317)

Would like to see that!

Selby

**chunterer** · 28 Apr 2015, 10:57 (Ref:3531447)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I heard that as well. I wonder who else is being considered?

Rossi is bound still to be, especially if he mounts a GP2 title tilt this year, along with any of Ferrari's juniors!

ECW Dan Selby · 29 Apr 2015, 01:56 (Ref:3531669)

I have to say, I haven't been overly impressed by Rossi from what i've seen. Always felt a little overhype there.

Selby

**bella** · 29 Apr 2015, 12:40 (Ref:3531787)

here's a good two and two to put together about mr rossi and some of his midfield chums from commercially well-placed countries:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/20...young-drivers/

the writer may be terribly biased and have his head wedged up some elderly bottoms, but he comes out with some interesting stuff sometimes.

wolfhound · 29 Apr 2015, 19:17 (Ref:3531915)

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Originally Posted by bella

here's a good two and two to put together about mr rossi and some of his midfield chums from commercially well-placed countries:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/20...young-drivers/

the writer may be terribly biased and have his head wedged up some elderly bottoms, but he comes out with some interesting stuff sometimes.

The one thing I don't get about this Bernie/CVC spending money for the long term good of F1 or motor sport in general. I read the article the other night and I kept on thinking why would Bernie spend money on young drivers given some of the ways he tries to get money out of promoters, teams and fans.

**chunterer** · 29 Apr 2015, 21:27 (Ref:3531961)

Get the kids noticed from the countries he wants races in and hey presto they cough up for more races.

Paradise City · 29 Apr 2015, 21:58 (Ref:3531974)

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Originally Posted by kurski

IndyCar commentator Townsend Bell speculating that Haas F1 Team would be interested in Josef Newgarden.

Townsend Bell himself wouldn't be a lunatic-hiring for Haas. Kind of a McNish type of appointment.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 29 Apr 2015, 23:03 (Ref:3531991)

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Originally Posted by Paradise City

Townsend Bell himself wouldn't be a lunatic-hiring for Haas. Kind of a McNish type of appointment.

He is 40.

Does Haas want an all American team, or is he required to include a non American driver?

JeremySmith · 29 Apr 2015, 23:54 (Ref:3532003)

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Originally Posted by Paradise City

Townsend Bell himself wouldn't be a lunatic-hiring for Haas. Kind of a McNish type of appointment.

I cant talk about age, But Townsend is a tad on the old side don't you think

JeremySmith · 29 Apr 2015, 23:54 (Ref:3532004)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

He is 40.

Does Haas want an all American team, or is he required to include a non American driver?

Why?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 30 Apr 2015, 00:15 (Ref:3532009)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Why?

I asked as I remember reading somewhere, that might be the case? I could be totally wrong.

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