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Ford always commit to the committed....take Moffat for example, being asked to sell his Chev Monza in exchange for FDT backing in 1977; or DJ being matched $ for $ in donations in 1980. Or putting their money behind FPR until their gutsy win in 2013.
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However in between they heavily backed Allan Moffat, and also Dick Johnson, Glenn Seton, Kent Youlden, Ken Douglas etc.. |
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I would like to see someone ask supercars if Ford are allowed to race the Mustang from 2015?.........I'd like to see that issue out in the clear as the other models in the Ford line-up would not really be appropriate.
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The Mustang races in the NASCAR Nationwide Series - surely Ford will stay in with atleast 1 team
How many years did Ambrose sign for with Penske DJR? |
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Now we're signing petitions to try to get Ford to stay, it will work as well as the petitions to keep V8Supercars on free-to-air.
The horse has bolted, Ford's commitment after Howard Marsden and Geoff Polites was always wishy washy and we just need to adjust to V8Supercars without sponsorship from Ford. People somehow holding out for a Ford Dealer Team or Ford USA sponsorship just need to build a bridge and get over it. |
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I know that previously Ford have suggested that they would like to race a Mustang bodied car in the future, but Nissan weren't happy about it as they weren't given the option to race a GTR........now Ford may not want to homologate new aero for a Falcon because the car will be discontinued and it will be money down the drain, so Ford ask to homologate a Mustang, but they are refused by supercars because the other manufacturers don't like it (they want four-door cars only). There could be more going on behind the scenes than is being stated by anyone..........of course, if any of this actually happened.
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Might be good for future years though - wasn't there something not that long ago about V8s looking at the tech rules for 2016? Might be that coupe bodies are under consideration for then. |
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Ford Australia have been easing their way out of the sport for some time now. It's been pretty obvious, given their lack of desire to leverage their involvement in it. |
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Drivers and fans unite amid Ford doubts
11 October 2014 - V8 Supercars NewsOngoing uncertainty over Ford’s future in Australian motorsport has stirred strong reaction from the company's racing legends and fan base ahead of Sunday's Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000 Read More |
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I would like Ford to stay. I want as many teams and manufacturers in the series as possible. But I won't be signing a petition. Not only is it a waste of my time (which I'd rather spending complaining about things on here ). It would be a waste of their time to bother reading it. Of course racing fans are going to try and get them to stay, but if the manufacturers themselves can't build a decent business case to stay in motorsport, and can't see any of the benefits that come with it, then they should leave. This is part of the bigger picture, and something that must be sorted out either within the manufacturer themselves, or as part of the bigger "V8 Supercars" picture. Who knows, Ford leaving my just open up the discussions for the improvements to the series that many of you crave. I for one are happy with the current state of it, and if Ford is gaining nothing by staying they can leave any make way for someone who will actually stand behind their teams and support them in more ways than one.
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Generally manufacturers want to push the mass market cars. The GT's sell themselves, Altimas on the other hand are a hard thing to move by all accounts. Nissan can do with all the help they can get.
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Given how much was involved with making the change to COTF (remember it was delayed from its original launch date by one year) there is clearly a process to go through that works for the teams and doesn't send the sport broke. There'd be a fair bit to consider - primarily aero and cage design I would think. Holden and Volvo for example don't have coupes they could race so getting a structure in place would need to be thought through properly. That's assuming of course that Ford even WANT to race the 'Stang - they may in fact prefer to run the Falcon and after that the Fusion (or whatever the Falcon replacement will be) as they see that as better for the brand. |
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How to help Ford
Step One: Buy a Ford If Step One cannot be achieved, recognise just maybe that you are part of the problem |
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Could be Ford playing hardball for turbos.
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I don't know how much vigour supercars is applying, but I expect there should probably be a bit more (extractus digitus). I've only ever seen Ford mention the Mustang in future racing programmes. Are supercars looking at changing their position on two-door cars? Someone should come out and say something. |
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If the reports are correct, it sounds like it's too late to keep Ford funding in the series - again according to the article there'll still be Fords running at least in 2015. I'm sure I've seen statements from V8s some time ago saying that they're looking at 2016 for some possible changes. If coupes were going to be part of the plan, seems to me that'd be the earliest opportunity to make the change, IF the change is planned. |
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Have a look at the poll in this article: http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsp...ec58e3-1227086 |
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Searched for the article on that site and couldn't find a poll anywhere. What was it about? |
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