Britcar-this weekend

[Snapper Baz]

Silverstone's 1st round kicks off at 14.10 for 2 hours of action-does anybody know how many entries there may be? By the way the Miglia's start the day at 12.15! 6 races only as per Sunday though 2 of them are BRDC single seaters.

[redshoes]

From www.eerc.co.uk

1 BMW M3 E36 - A.DONALDSON / I.DONALSON
2 MARCOS - C.BEIGHTON / J.FINNIEMORE
4 FIESTA 1800 - D.ABBOTT / A.WILTSHIRE
5 BMW M3 E36 - A.ALLEN / D.KEMPTON
6 FIESTA 1800 - M.HARTLEY / M.EDESON
7 MARCOS - D.SMITH / F.KINTCHIN
10 FERRARI 355 - BO.McCORMICK / BO.McCORMICK
14 INTEGRA/R - K.WELLS / S.HARRISON
15 VECTRA - A.RAY / J.HARRISON
18 BMW M3 E36 - C.LOCKIE / J.COWGILL
20 ALFA 156 - G.GROMBRIDGE / A.GROMBRIDGE
21 HONDA CIVIC - T.GANNON / W.GANNON
23 LOTUS ELISE - D.ASHFORD / R.BOUZOUBA
25 VENTO - A.TAUTZ / A.QUARTERMAIN
27 MARCOS - A.DAVIES / M.PARSON
29 GOLF MK4 - S.SCOTT / S.WOODS
30 FIESTA 1800 - P.HANDS / B.SALMON
31 VECTRA - R.ARCHER / N.STARKEY
33 BEETLE RSI - A.FRICK / T.FLATT
36 INTEGRA/R - J.GEORGE / P.BENNETT
38 BMW M3 E30 - L.HALLIDAY / L.HALLIDAY
40 BMW M3 E30 - N.STEPHENS / M.SMITH
49 INTEGRA/R - M.MCINERNEY / S.MCINERNEY
51 PORSCHE GT3 - M.LITTLEJOHN / A.DIXON
55 MERC DTM 190 - A.ROUSE / J.ROUSE
69 CLIO 16V - M.COX / M.ROGERS
71 LOTUS ELISE - S.SCUFFHAM / J.LEROUX
76 ROVER 220 T - R.GAIN / C.POWELL
77 BMW M3 E36 - A.COLLETT / A.COLLETT
99 CLIO 16V - A.FRANKEL / J.FRANKEL

[Snapper Baz]

Thanks for that-looks as though it could be good. I'll let everyone know what happened after I get home.

[Stephen H]

Trying to decide whether to make the trip to Silverstone tomorrow. 22 March 03
Does anybody know the full timetable, what else is on other tham britcar/minis/ and 2 BRDC single seaters?

[Les]

22nd
9;30 Mini qual
9:50 Brit car qual
10:30 HGPCA rear eng qual
10:50 Inter Marque challenge qual
11.15 Mini 7 qual
11.35 HGPCA front eng qual

races
12:15 Mini Miglia
13:10 HGPCA
13:35 InterMarque
14:10 Britcar
16:15 Mini 7
16:40 HGPCA

[Stephen H]

thanks for the info, is the timetable repeated for sunday

[jase]

I doubt it, if my info is correct, Sunday is a different meeting.

[Les]

here we go then...
23rd
qual
10.00 brdc single seaters
10.25 caterham
11.05 brdc historic
11.30 brdc single seater
12.00 caterham
12.20 brdc historic

races
13.10 brdc single seaters
13.35 caterham
14.00 brdc historics
14.50 caterham
15.15 brdc historics

[Nissan]

Why do the results of the EERC race at Silverstone today not show on the MST web site ?, I thought all forms of national motorsport had to run an MST transponder ?.

[Alfaholic]

Due to low volume on the PA system at Silverstone, I missed the reason the Finnemore/Beighton Mantis dropped back - can anybody supply the answer. I also thought the Rouse Merc was supposed to have a stop/go penaly but saw no evidence of it being served.

[jase]

The results were still provisional when I left the circuit at 5=30 yesterday.

Alfa, what was the Stop/Go for?

An enjoyable race, a diversity of cars, the Ex DTM Merc was in a class of it's own, finishing 2 laps ahead of the rest of the field

[Les]

the stop go was for speeding but the paperwork was on the wrong coloured paper and wasn't served - you what!!!!!!!

the marcos had a broken gear stick and limped for nearly a lap before that was replaced...

excellent wins for Andy and Julian Rouse , Phil Bennett and John George and Smith and Stephens and drivers of the day for Gannon and Gannon

[Alfaholic]

Thanks for the info Les - it was looking like a close finish until the Marcos' problem.
How on earth can the colour of paper make any difference to whether a penalty is applied or not ?

[Ian Sowman]

I believe MST only put the results up online for organisers that pay them enough.

[Les]

well over the commentary they said that james (Tucker) had asked for the stop/go to be applied and some 20 minutes later they said they couldn't as it was requested on the wrong colour paper!

[jase]

Originally posted by Alfaholic
...How on earth can the colour of paper make any difference to whether a penalty is applied or not ?

If the speeding report is not on an official form, ie MSA report pad or other recognised for the meeting, then the Clark of the Course can reject it. It also depends on who submits the report and if that person is the Judge of Fact on the speed gun.

[Piglet]

Originally posted by Les
well over the commentary they said that james (Tucker) had asked for the stop/go to be applied and some 20 minutes later they said they couldn't as it was requested on the wrong colour paper!

I think that there's a small possibility that you missed the sarcasm in the comment.....

It's likely that Jason is near the truth, there is a correct process for things like this that depends on the regs for the race and/or the blue book. If not followed the competitor would be able to appeal the penalty.

[Snapper Baz]

For those that arn't aware the top 5 was: Rouse/Rouse, Cowgill/Lockie, Finnemore/Beighton, Kempton/Allen & Donaldson/Donaldson. Rouse's speed in the pitlane was (if I remember correctly-so could be wrong!)was about 90mph! No doubt someone will have the correct speed! the Milia's were great: Sollis, Baldwin, Rogers, Chandler & Wager. The Mini 7s were even better with: Deviny, Sims, Hack, Hunter(Mad Max!) & Banwell. Didn't watch anything else due to getting the gossip after those races. Went to North Weald sprint today to do some words/photography and eneded up laying cement dust round half the track to help with the marshals!

[Les]

full result from EERC/Britcar
http://www.wood-scott.com/results/1Silverstone.htm

[a_r_c_a]

We don't even really care who wins in this championship, Now the game is cool to see!!You can "High 5" on TV...

[Snapper Baz]

Do what???

[Les]

must admit I was stumped there as well...

so next round is Brands Hatch - last year it rained and the poor old Fiesta drivers spent the whole race looking in their mirrors. I sometimes think that such a mixture of cars need a longer circuit.

[Snapper Baz]

Possibly Les, but Brands should give the Fiesta's a bit more of a chance-well they shouldn't be lapped as much I wouldn't have thought as it's not like a power circuit like Silverstone is with the long straights. Have some nice shots from Silverstone so will be looking for the drivers on the Saturday morn'. Les, would you know if the Pembrey round is for racing on the Sunday only as I cant get there untill Sat' evening.

[Les]

I won't be at Brands as it clashes with Mondello BTCC (bummer) so I reckon my boys are on for a win. Take loads of piccies for me please...

Going back to the fiestas - poor old boys were being overtaken at every corner on every lap apart from the first 2 or 3. That can't make it the best of races for them surely. It's not as if it was Silverstone where they can at least have a breather down the straight.

[jase]

Brands was wet last year, that's an understatement!!

Saturday was a good race, and I'm looking forward to the Brands meeting, which will be the day after 2 long days at Snetterton for the F3/GT meeting.

Some of my photos from Silverstone:
http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/jasongore2002

Les enjoy Mondello