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Old 5 Oct 2016, 08:16 (Ref:3677425)   #16
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The Citroen lineup has been confirmed:

Meeke
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Breen

Looks like a pretty good lineup to me although maybe lacking a bit of experience (other than Meeke).
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Old 5 Oct 2016, 09:42 (Ref:3677447)   #17
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And now Hyundai have confirmed Neuville for next season - lineups taking shape.
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Old 5 Oct 2016, 20:59 (Ref:3677627)   #18
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And now Hyundai have confirmed Neuville for next season - lineups taking shape.
I heard in the highlights program that Sordo had 2yrs confirmed as well unless I was imagining.

I didn't know Camilli has only being rallying for 4 years! 4 years! Remarkable. Talk about a vertical learning curve.
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Old 6 Oct 2016, 08:12 (Ref:3677765)   #19
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Well I hope that the Yaris goes well, because it looks like a brick! The way the Toyota program has been run thus far doesn't fill me with confidence, but fingers crossed they have the pace.

2017 Fiesta WRC in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngH2...ature=youtu.be

I was expecting to like the look of the Fiesta more, but I'm not convinced yet, it looks "stretched" to make the extended track width rather than chunky like the current car. I'm sure there are refinements to come in the styling though, plus it is hard to gauge the lines with all the camouflage.
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Old 6 Oct 2016, 08:25 (Ref:3677766)   #20
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It's interesting to hear the 2017 revs so much higher than the older 2.0 34 mm cars. I know this is due to a shorter stroke, but I guess the 36 mm restrictor frees the top end.
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Old 6 Oct 2016, 11:57 (Ref:3677811)   #21
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I am much more impressed by the WRC's "return to power" than I expected to be. The cars do look much better and the new body kits mean each has its own character.

I am wondering a bit about safety with people saying these could be so much faster than current models (and obviously very much faster than group B). Yes, I know the body kits are meant to give more impact protection but most serious injuries and fatalities tend to be caused by frontal impacts and objects entering the cabin through the front of the car - these areas don't seem to have improved that much. And then there are the spectators/photographers who still stand in stupid places and will have even less time to react to errant cars...
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Old 6 Oct 2016, 19:44 (Ref:3677919)   #22
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Do they really sound that much different?

it isn't really that different to the current cars, juts a bit more raucous, and I mean a bit more.

With a load more aero and body contouring.

Now, they look kind of like time attack cars!!
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Very interesting thoughts throughout this thread, good discussions! I too was excited about the power increase but I'm questioning that now, as someone said earlier, who asked for more power? Thinking about it, it's an answer to a question nobody I know of has asked!

Arguably, the power of the cars is the least of the WRC's problems; the core one it seems to me being the disappearance of the sport from the minds of the general public. Those of us in the know will probably enjoy the faster cars but will it bring new converts? Are they preaching to the choir?
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Old 21 Oct 2016, 07:27 (Ref:3681727)   #24
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You've hit the nail on the head.

The current cars are the fastest through a stage we've seen; faster than the brutally fast in a straight line, but agricultural Gp B cars. So, the cars aren't really the problem.

It down to promotion, and the series of bland, identikit WRC events, and muddled thinking from those at the top and the Manufacturers.

As you say, they're only preaching to the converted; your modern day 'general motorsport fan' isn't really interested in the sport anymore - you only have to look on various motorsport websites/ forums, and the rallying/ WRC threads fare poorly compared to F1, BTCC, MotoGP, WEC, etc
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Old 21 Oct 2016, 14:14 (Ref:3681777)   #25
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I'm old enough to remember when they showed the Silverstone Rallysprint stage of the 97 RAC on the Beeb, but it seems that a great sport has been forgotten about. It's a shame because proper promotion should get more people interested
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You've hit the nail on the head.

The current cars are the fastest through a stage we've seen; faster than the brutally fast in a straight line, but agricultural Gp B cars. So, the cars aren't really the problem.

That is exactly the problem, too fast through the corners, impressive 0-60 times, but ok on the longer straights. These car are way off road cars, there is no way you can identify your hot hatch to this.
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Very interesting thoughts throughout this thread, good discussions! I too was excited about the power increase but I'm questioning that now, as someone said earlier, who asked for more power? Thinking about it, it's an answer to a question nobody I know of has asked!

Arguably, the power of the cars is the least of the WRC's problems; the core one it seems to me being the disappearance of the sport from the minds of the general public. Those of us in the know will probably enjoy the faster cars but will it bring new converts? Are they preaching to the choir?

The same could be said about the even wider cars, making them even more distant from a normal hot hatch. Or wheels that nearly hit the bonnet. I think most classes go over the top these days, even Porsche 911 GT 3's aren't competition enough if you look at WEC or GTE.
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VW on the verge of pulling the plug on their WRC program? Perhaps just gossip...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-wrc-programme

...but an interesting snippet to read after the Audi announcement last week. Would they back out when they have already poured so much into development of a car for 2017?
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-wrc-programme

...but an interesting snippet to read after the Audi announcement last week. Would they back out when they have already poured so much into development of a car for 2017?
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Feels a bit late to stop the program now doesn't it? They started testing the outlines for the 2017 car over a year ago.

Even if VW have been hit hard by dieselgate, surely they would have foreseen the huge costs of it.
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