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Old 26 Nov 2016, 04:35 (Ref:3691073)   #1
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Kia Is Coming??

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Perfect for GRM/WP to bring to the series..
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Old 26 Nov 2016, 05:28 (Ref:3691079)   #2
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Story Here

Perfect for GRM/WP to bring to the series..
Ive long felt that Kia is the one brand that could really benefit from VASC.

Sits just outside the top ten by sales in Australia and would eb good for there image

Still, very preliminary talks
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Old 26 Nov 2016, 10:19 (Ref:3691100)   #3
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Old 26 Nov 2016, 16:41 (Ref:3691170)   #4
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Old 26 Nov 2016, 18:28 (Ref:3691197)   #6
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Or the new Cadenza? The Cadenza is larger than the Optima.

GRM has shown they can succesful with a new brand.
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The Kia Stinger GT4 concept:
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 00:59 (Ref:3691290)   #8
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The Kia Stinger GT4 concept:
I'd love to see Kia get involved in the series, but not with the "Stinger" posted above, that ain't a touring car
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 01:25 (Ref:3691294)   #9
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No doubt this kind of discussion will get the VASC heartland really excited.
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 03:15 (Ref:3691302)   #10
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What is everyone buying now instead of Falcodores?

Captivas and Territories.
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 03:17 (Ref:3691303)   #11
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What is everyone buying now instead of Falcodores?

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What is everyone buying now instead of Falcodores?

Captivas and Territories.
Vfacts would suggest Corollas, 3s, i30s, Hiluxes, Rangers...
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What's your point?
I imagine its something along the lines of why build a commodore/falcon competitor when the market place is going away from these types of cars
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...because it's already been built and plenty of people still buy them around the world?

Most first world countries biggest market at the moment are small CUV's, but in this day and age, what people are buying has zero to do with what is represented on the racetrack. The general public just wants to see quick, loud cars, not more versions of the penalty boxes they have to deal with on a daily basis.

In case you haven't noticed, all the major national tin-top series are for CARS, most of which are the more high-level models or trims. Zero national tin-top series run the mass-market sellers(outside of MAYBE Argentina), and the people attending or watching on television, Do. Not. Care. Racing is no longer a marketing effort for the model represented on the track, but more for the brand as a whole. Whether someone drives a Camira or a Commodore, they'll be waving the flag for their Holden branded product to beat the rest.

Over on this side of the world, in our national tin-top series, most people that show up to the racetrack on any level come in some sort of SUV or pickup truck, with rivalry between the brands just as heavy as it is down there for Holden v Ford. They don't give a damn what model is represented on track, so long as their particular manufacture is beating the others.

While KIA doesn't have that level of rivalry with any manufacture, having them on the track will give every family that drives everything from the small Rio, all the way to the K900, something to cheer for.
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Old 27 Nov 2016, 06:03 (Ref:3691327)   #15
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Errr.. it's actually surprising as to the level of niggle between Hyundai & Kia..
If Hyundai joined the series, the level would be UP UP UP...
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Hyundai vs Kia.

You can just imagine the anticipation from top of the mountain for such a great Australian rivalry
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If only they were on opposing sides of the N/S Korea border.
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Hyundai and Kia are owned by the same company.
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I imagine its something along the lines of why build a commodore/falcon competitor when the market place is going away from these types of cars
The market for full size has cars had definitely reduced but there is still a market for them. I think that the Commodore is still in the top ten models sold here sale wise and of course there is a market for full size sedans world wide too. Not the outright sales leaders they once were here in Oz but still worth building something to appeal to a section of the market that Kia currently don't compete in.
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Hyundai vs Kia.

You can just imagine the anticipation from top of the mountain for such a great Australian rivalry
Something to watch while waiting for the Ute races.
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The market for full size has cars had definitely reduced but there is still a market for them. I think that the Commodore is still in the top ten models sold here sale wise and of course there is a market for full size sedans world wide too. Not the outright sales leaders they once were here in Oz but still worth building something to appeal to a section of the market that Kia currently don't compete in.
They already do build a full-size car. It's called the K9/K900/Quoris. V8 powered, rear drive, and everything.

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Hyundai vs Kia.

You can just imagine the anticipation from top of the mountain for such a great Australian rivalry
Considering the carparks of Australia are full of these brands of cars, you just never know what might show up
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It's really helped moving all those Altimas I see out on the road. Why would Kia think they know how to do it so right when Nissan seemed to have got it fairly wrong?
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They already do build a full-size car. It's called the K9/K900/Quoris. V8 powered, rear drive, and everything.



That isn't sold here in Oz so they're not in that market segment here.
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It's really helped moving all those Altimas I see out on the road. Why would Kia think they know how to do it so right when Nissan seemed to have got it fairly wrong?
Altima is probably more of a loss leader than anything.

The Supercars program was about raising brand awareness, not so much for the Altima itself. You probably won't find that many Altimas sitting in holding yards, compared to other slow sellers.
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