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Old 17 Aug 2016, 02:00 (Ref:3666065)   #16
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Never been a HRT fan, but I find this a bit sad, and from a category perspective, I'm not sure it's a good news story at all.
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 02:04 (Ref:3666066)   #17
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Im sure i have read somewhere (just cant find it) that the current lion driver emblem remains with Walkinshaw.

will the new car even have a lion
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Although the Red Bull Holden Racing Team name will be used by Triple Eight next year, Walkinshaw noted on Twitter that the helmet and lion HRT logo that has been a hallmark of the brand since its inception in 1989 is set to be retired.
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 02:13 (Ref:3666068)   #18
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cheers. I had read quite a few articles, couldnt remember the source

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Old 17 Aug 2016, 02:31 (Ref:3666071)   #19
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Frees up some real estate when doing next year's livery. Maybe that's not a good thing.
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 03:51 (Ref:3666078)   #20
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It's been quite a fall from grace. I remember reading when Mark Skaife was racing that HRT was one of the top 5 teams supported across all sports (including AFL, NRL etc) in Australia

Now not even worth providing factory support to
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Old 17 Aug 2016, 06:27 (Ref:3666090)   #21
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Someone who is part of the operation told me last week that Walkinshaw had extended the HSV deal by another ten years.
I find this exceptionally unlikely.

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Makes sense. There'll still be the next 'Commodore' to hot up even if it's not V8 powered.
Unless HSV is going to take on importing, complying and selling OPC vehicles for Holden dealers to sell I really do not see HSV's reason to be.

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Will they be "Red Bull, Holden Racing Team" or "Red Bull Holden, Racing Team" ?
Red Bull Holden Racing Team as HRT was the Mobil Holden Racing Team and other names over time.

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Im sure i have read somewhere (just cant find it) that the current lion driver emblem remains with Walkinshaw.
The lion/helmet device is linked with HSV, which is a brand that Walkinshaw has been able to use under a license from Holden. If Holden were to revoke the HSV license, the device would have no relevance to another team...

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Old 19 Aug 2016, 02:50 (Ref:3666481)   #22
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HRT has been on life support ever since Skaife took over and then fell into a coma after Walkinshaw took it back. Multiple attempts the revive the brand, with the likes of Tander and Courtney, have fall flat and remained in a comatose state for years.

Finally the plug has been pulled.....

After Skaife went and all ownership stuff, my support dropped off, and kept dropping with everything that happened in the years after.

The sad reality is that a brand and dominate force that Tom built has been killed off by his son, whom I've honestly never liked from onset.
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Old 19 Aug 2016, 06:42 (Ref:3666500)   #23
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Red Bull Holden Racing Team as HRT was the Mobil Holden Racing Team and other names over time.
I don't agree with this

For instance your statement makes it sound like the stats from the time of the "Mobil Holden Racing Team" can be added to the stats that will be amassed by the "Red Bull Holden Racing Team", which is ridiculous.

If Whincup/Dumbrell wins Bathurst next year, they could hardly claim it as the teams first Bathurst win since 2011.
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Old 19 Aug 2016, 06:55 (Ref:3666504)   #24
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If Whincup/Dumbrell wins Bathurst next year, they could hardly claim it as the teams first Bathurst win since 2011.
Excluding this years result. It would be HRT's 14th Bathurst win....


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Old 19 Aug 2016, 07:04 (Ref:3666506)   #25
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For instance your statement makes it sound like the stats from the time of the "Mobil Holden Racing Team" can be added to the stats that will be amassed by the "Red Bull Holden Racing Team", which is ridiculous.
Where did I say that?

Red Bull will be the sponsor of the official factory racing team of Holden: Red Bull Holden Racing Team.

As Mobil were the naming rights sponsor of the Walkinshaw owned Mobil Holden Racing Team.

Nothing carries over, just clarifying the fact that the Holden Racing Team name is a property of Holden and as such Holden has decided to transfer that to a new team.
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Old 19 Aug 2016, 11:52 (Ref:3666530)   #26
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Excluding this years result. It would be HRT's 14th Bathurst win....
How so?

Do all the various incarnations of "Supercheap Auto Racing" have their stats merged into one?

Did the "Pepsi Max Crew" Falcon stats from 2013, 14 & 15 include Greg Murphy's 2011 Bathurst pole in the "Pepsi Max Crew" Commodore in their stats?



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Where did I say that?

Red Bull will be the sponsor of the official factory racing team of Holden: Red Bull Holden Racing Team.

As Mobil were the naming rights sponsor of the Walkinshaw owned Mobil Holden Racing Team.

Nothing carries over, just clarifying the fact that the Holden Racing Team name is a property of Holden and as such Holden has decided to transfer that to a new team.
All good, I interpreted what you wrote wrongly
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How so?

I was taking the pi55 on how Simon McNamara would market the win.


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Old 19 Aug 2016, 13:51 (Ref:3666565)   #28
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I think from here on, the stats will be referred to by the parent owner of the team, be it Walkinshaw, or Triple Eight.
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Old 19 Aug 2016, 16:33 (Ref:3666605)   #29
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Exactly, next year we will be talking about WR as the 7 times title winning team and 888 as the 6 times title winning team, assuming the current stats remain. HRT's stats will get added to those of WR in much the same way FPR's were added to PRA and DJR's to DJRTP when they rebranded.
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and yet holden claim every holden win, as do ford, often. I have seen many castrol posters showing all the castrol winners, Thus HRT can claim any future wins as part of their history.
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