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Old 17 Jul 2017, 11:48 (Ref:3752109)   #226
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Wouldn't take much for the coyote to push 650hp, the current one proposed has no internals touched. It also wouldn't require close attention at each round like a current spec supercar engine does. The albens box is also quite problematic in supercars to add an extra element of reliability to the picture.

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Old 20 Jul 2017, 01:30 (Ref:3752927)   #227
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There doesn't need to be a dumping ground for anything. There isn't a massive glut of engines. There are 3 tiers of Supercars that require them. The blocks and heads don't last forever, so there will always be demand for them.
That could change very fast if the push to switch to turbo V6s actually starts gaining ground.
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Old 20 Jul 2017, 13:13 (Ref:3753071)   #228
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Wouldn't take much for the coyote to push 650hp, the current one proposed has no internals touched.
Certainly, a fun Coyote build here, 625hp at 8000rpm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-NZIOIhUiU

Without Supercars rules you would get there pretty easily, just by throwing some off-the-shelf parts at it, ordering some off-the-shelf ported cylinder heads from a reputable supplier, and a bit of fine-tuning. With supercars rule (10:1 compression, 7500rpm rev limit) it would be a bit more difficult though as Nissan and AMG have found out.

If it was up to me, I would ask InnoV8 to look into the building the Coyotes with a flat-plane crank kit to get more of a Formula 1 / Cosworth DFV sound, perhaps go up to a 9000rpm rev limit, but I don't think that is what Lamden or Supercars are going for.

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“The rod ratio (in the FlatFast kit) matches the Ferrari 488 at 1.77, but I may need to back this off a tad after I build the first few for torque purposes. The higher rod ratio reduces the nasty torsional harmonics that have given the flat-plane crank a bad name,” Stephen explained.
https://www.svtperformance.com/2015/...nk-conversion/

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Old 22 Jul 2017, 09:27 (Ref:3753484)   #229
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Certainly, a fun Coyote build here, 625hp at 8000rpm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-NZIOIhUiU

Without Supercars rules you would get there pretty easily, just by throwing some off-the-shelf parts at it, ordering some off-the-shelf ported cylinder heads from a reputable supplier, and a bit of fine-tuning. With supercars rule (10:1 compression, 7500rpm rev limit) it would be a bit more difficult though as Nissan and AMG have found out.

If it was up to me, I would ask InnoV8 to look into the building the Coyotes with a flat-plane crank kit to get more of a Formula 1 / Cosworth DFV sound, perhaps go up to a 9000rpm rev limit, but I don't think that is what Lamden or Supercars are going for.


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That flat crank idea would be ace even with no other changes........
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Old 22 Jul 2017, 14:11 (Ref:3753519)   #230
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Issue is then dealing with vibration, particularly since they're solid mounted but damn it would sound sweet.
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Old 15 Oct 2017, 01:56 (Ref:3774234)   #231
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Some indication that both prototype cars will be at Surfers Paradise in an exhibition role.
It is a long way off until something like a full field can be expected but the demo might just get me off the couch and over to the circuit.
Does anyone have info about the schedule for their appearance?
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Old 15 Oct 2017, 14:04 (Ref:3774323)   #232
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is not one of the cars the old swift formula Nippon chassis?
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 01:30 (Ref:3774399)   #233
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is not one of the cars the old swift formula Nippon chassis?
Correct, but it's basically just the tub and front inboard pickup points which is carried over I believe, the rest is revised or completely different.

It will be good to see them both on track together, they will be liveried the same as well.
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 10:31 (Ref:3774445)   #234
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Correct, but it's basically just the tub and front inboard pickup points which is carried over I believe, the rest is revised or completely different.

It will be good to see them both on track together, they will be liveried the same as well.
The tub and entire nosecone is the same. I've heard it has the same floor, as well, but cannot confirm.
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 10:46 (Ref:3774447)   #235
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wonder if this category will go ahead, Adn if it does will it be of interest to most people.

Seems to be stagnating a bit in my opinion
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 11:44 (Ref:3774453)   #236
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Seems to be stagnating a bit in my opinion
With the might of the Supercars empire backing it, there is no way this category will be a failure.
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 11:56 (Ref:3774457)   #237
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With the might of the Supercars empire backing it, there is no way this category will be a failure.
You say that like it is a bad thing..

Anyway, the pilots named as testing the Super5000s on the Gold Coast may be subject to change.

What is likely to happen engine-wise is a compromise... a Ford Coyote engine from the US, complete with flat plane crank, high rev limit, and a beautiful DFV-like screech...

At some point, a technical group within Supercar shall confirm the chassis spec, and the chassis builder can start fabricating cars on behalf of Supercar for a next season start.

It isn't all doom and gloom... there just isn't loads of chat around this stuff right now...
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 11:59 (Ref:3774459)   #238
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You say that like it is a bad thing..
I wasn't saying it's a good thing or a bad thing

General consensus seems to be around here though that the only way for a category to succeed is if it aligns itself with Supercars, so therefore why won't this category succeed given it's alliance?
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 12:03 (Ref:3774461)   #239
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There's one car in particular drivers are almost afraid to drive again, gold Coast circuit will emphasis which.
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There's one car in particular drivers are almost afraid to drive again, gold Coast circuit will emphasis which.
Oscar's example was very twitchy at Sandown, but it was also on slicks on a damp track, and looked to be too stiffly sprung
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