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Old 4 Aug 2017, 14:03 (Ref:3757361)   #271
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It seems that with the desire to show off the technology the racing side of it has been lost.
They are German, what do you expect?
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Old 19 Aug 2017, 02:01 (Ref:3760299)   #273
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Given the low grid numbers of late, perhaps CAMS' idea to consolidate GT3 racing in Australia, had some merit?
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Old 19 Aug 2017, 05:03 (Ref:3760317)   #274
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Given the low grid numbers of late, perhaps CAMS' idea to consolidate GT3 racing in Australia, had some merit?
I think the grid numbers could be a result of it - rather than a reason for it.

There is unrest in the competitor ranks no doubt which is leading to this - which kicked off when a few v8sc aligned GT car owners revolted against the schedule.

The result of such a revolt is your main race at 7.30am on Saturday morning in 3 x 3 pit bay. Something that hasn't pleased owners which is slightly ironic.
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I think the grid numbers could be a result of it - rather than a reason for it.

There is unrest in the competitor ranks no doubt which is leading to this - which kicked off when a few v8sc aligned GT car owners revolted against the schedule.

The result of such a revolt is your main race at 7.30am on Saturday morning in 3 x 3 pit bay. Something that hasn't pleased owners which is slightly ironic.
If the GT event is on Fox, and on the 1 hour highlight package on #10, and its on the Supercar card, is the time of the start the real issue, or the excuse?
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Old 19 Aug 2017, 07:37 (Ref:3760334)   #276
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If the GT event is on Fox, and on the 1 hour highlight package on #10, and its on the Supercar card, is the time of the start the real issue, or the excuse?
Excuse for what?

I wonder what the Fox Sports ratings are at 7.30am on a Saturday morning GTR?

1 hour highlights packages are also available via Speedweek - I am not sure the #10 offering is such a point of difference.

I understand a big concern for the teams is the condensed schedule, being parked up on the skid pan, given little access to pit garages during the race / 'pit buddys' for a 17 car grid and then being 'locked in' until 5.30pm this evening.

Not a great experience.
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Excuse for what?

I wonder what the Fox Sports ratings are at 7.30am on a Saturday morning GTR?

1 hour highlights packages are also available via Speedweek - I am not sure the #10 offering is such a point of difference.

I understand a big concern for the teams is the condensed schedule, being parked up on the skid pan, given little access to pit garages during the race / 'pit buddys' for a 17 car grid and then being 'locked in' until 5.30pm this evening.

Not a great experience.
its a good theory, but only one of the enduro races is on the supercars bill. So we would expect good grids at the other rounds. But PI was just 19 cars. Im thinking you are making a strawman for bigger issues,

The excuse last time was cars being damaged, does that still not hold? I think probably not anymore.

The test will be in NZ, then we will now
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Is it good for Australian motorsport if Supercars end up having their fingers in so many category pies?

Why aren't CAMS putting a cap on how many CMA's one organisation can control?

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I understand a big concern for the teams is the condensed schedule, being parked up on the skid pan.
They weren't even on the skid pan, they were squeezed into the little paddock of the South circuits small pit area.... the sight of GT teams having to remove & push all their equipment from the pitlane all the way up the tunnel through all the fans and competitors cars looked both dangerous and ridiculous

It looked like it would have been fun trying to get all the trucks out of that area as well

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If the GT event is on Fox, and on the 1 hour highlight package on #10, and its on the Supercar card, is the time of the start the real issue, or the excuse?
If you owned a GT car, would you bother if your national championship counting event was held at 7:30am on a Saturday morning with no spectators, no atmosphere, not to mention you'd have to get to the track to start getting things ready at what, 5am at the latest?

I wonder what the crowd was like for the race too?
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its a good theory, but only one of the enduro races is on the supercars bill. So we would expect good grids at the other rounds. But PI was just 19 cars. Im thinking you are making a strawman for bigger issues,

The excuse last time was cars being damaged, does that still not hold? I think probably not anymore.

The test will be in NZ, then we will now
Pecky - I dont think anyone is suggesting that the SMP v8 round itself is causing a decline in entries?

The whole schedule debate has be raging since February - sprint & endurance.

As for accident damage - cars like the Objective McLaren, Bates AMG, Miedecke Aston, Koundouris Audi havent been seen since there respective accidents.

Teams clearly dont have the time, energy or budgets to be fixing/replacing cars every 2 or 3 rounds.

I dont think NZ will be the test. Round 1 2018 will be the test.
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There's a handful of other cars missing off that list, not to mention the several current spec cars on the market.
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If you owned a GT car, would you bother if your national championship counting event was held at 7:30am on a Saturday morning with no spectators, no atmosphere, not to mention you'd have to get to the track to start getting things ready at what, 5am at the latest?

I wonder what the crowd was like for the race too?
Scudd has stated on this forum in the past that he gives no consideration to the paying spectator. He races for his own enjoyment and doesn't care about the spectators.
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I'm sure context is important.
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Old 20 Aug 2017, 04:48 (Ref:3760499)   #283
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I wonder what the crowd was like for the race too?
There were 44 people in the grandstand around the first set of scheduled stops, I counted them from the pitlane while geared up and waiting (and waiting) for our car to pit
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As regular GT competitor numbers have fallen over recent events, GT management has faced building pressure to resolve the future direction of the category and it has been an open secret that long time backer and GT boss Tony Quinn has lost the support of some GT team owners, hence the drop in regular competitor numbers.

Quinn indicated to competitors during the Townsville race weekend that his leadership of GT racing was coming to an end, without going into any details.
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