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Old 13 Jun 2017, 21:13 (Ref:3741002)   #31
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It's a cost and time effective backup plan all the teams just need to do is buy new customer cars over manufacturers or get factory backing (which would be much easier) and it's pretty much good to go
Cost effective?

Only 1.5 million for a 2 car team, without spares?

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Old 14 Jun 2017, 01:34 (Ref:3741054)   #32
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What's so funny Pecky? Your denial that your favourite series is at a serious crossroads?

I'm not for a second saying that Aus GT is in a better position because quite frankly they are also in a spot of bother.

Sad facts for Australian Motorsport are that the 2 top series are currently in a state of decline.

I'm only pointing out that Supercars acquiring GT3 rights is not a bad insurance policy for their current predicament.
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Old 14 Jun 2017, 10:30 (Ref:3741144)   #33
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Cost effective?

Only 1.5 million for a 2 car team, without spares?

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It's closer to a mil sans spares which is cheaper then two Supercars.
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Old 14 Jun 2017, 11:27 (Ref:3741151)   #34
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It's closer to a mil sans spares which is cheaper then two Supercars.
that might have been correct a few years back, but not anymore. Most of the cars are over half a mill now (new), with no spares. some are up to $750K,

and you stack them, well now we are talking
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that might have been correct a few years back, but not anymore. Most of the cars are over half a mill now (new), with no spares. some are up to $750K,

and you stack them, well now we are talking
Are you sure about the no spares Pecky? I mean I am sure you have first hand, detailed knowledge of this?

Many of the car purchases are packages that include spares and technical support from the factories in Europe. Lamborghini's recent approach with the Hurricane sales are an example of this.
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Are you sure about the no spares Pecky? I mean I am sure you have first hand, detailed knowledge of this?

Many of the car purchases are packages that include spares and technical support from the factories in Europe. Lamborghini's recent approach with the Hurricane sales are an example of this.
im happy for you to provide that price as a comparison?
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im happy for you to provide that price as a comparison?
I don't have a specific price, just as you dont. What I was providing was that car manufacturers sell drivers, teams etc packages to run the cars which go well beyond just the car.
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Are you sure about the no spares Pecky? I mean I am sure you have first hand, detailed knowledge of this?

Many of the car purchases are packages that include spares and technical support from the factories in Europe. Lamborghini's recent approach with the Hurricane sales are an example of this.
Some rough prices here: http://gt3europe.com/cars.php

But I think it's several years out of date.
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I don't have a specific price, just as you dont. What I was providing was that car manufacturers sell drivers, teams etc packages to run the cars which go well beyond just the car.
As shown above its easy to get car pricese with google (as shown above for example). And yes they do sell those thing you mentioned even as part of a package, for extra$.

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Old 15 Jun 2017, 01:55 (Ref:3741484)   #40
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GT3 engines are a bucket load cheaper and their service intervals are massive compared to Supercars.

I know someone who use to work at GRM and he said there were hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of parts that were designed, machined and thrown on the scrap heap because they didn't yield the performance gain they hoped.
Again something not required on customer spec machinery
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GT3 engines are a bucket load cheaper and their service intervals are massive compared to Supercars.

I know someone who use to work at GRM and he said there were hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of parts that were designed, machined and thrown on the scrap heap because they didn't yield the performance gain they hoped.
Again something not required on customer spec machinery
so what you are saying is that each brand has an effective control engine, perfect for gentleman racers, Not ideal for real motorsport though
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Old 15 Jun 2017, 02:28 (Ref:3741489)   #42
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GT3 engines are a bucket load cheaper and their service intervals are massive compared to Supercars.

I know someone who use to work at GRM and he said there were hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of parts that were designed, machined and thrown on the scrap heap because they didn't yield the performance gain they hoped.
Again something not required on customer spec machinery
Yep, they have a much longer service life, plus the development costs are ammortised over a larger customer base.
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so what you are saying is that each brand has an effective control engine, perfect for gentleman racers, Not ideal for real motorsport though
Not sure how you come to that conclusion? What makes an engine fit for real motorsport? As far as I'm concerned, loud, fast and reliable. Can't see what component of that GT3 spec engines don't fit the bill.
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so what you are saying is that each brand has an effective control engine, perfect for gentleman racers, Not ideal for real motorsport though
Thats not a very nice thing to say about the efforts of a number of Tenthers on here who have competed at state, national and international level in those cars. Poor form.
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Old 15 Jun 2017, 02:59 (Ref:3741499)   #45
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that was actually a pretty argumentative comment Peckster

You must not have watched the Nurburgring 24 hour or Bathurst 12 Hour. They were both real races.

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