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Old 14 Jan 2006, 18:28 (Ref:1501256)   #26
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Alan Raine should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridAlan Raine should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridAlan Raine should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridAlan Raine should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I think it might of been a 2 litre sports car or possibly a F2 car. I also think that Tony Sugden is now in his 70's!
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Old 14 Jan 2006, 19:13 (Ref:1501272)   #27
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Yep, it was either a F2 (the old 2.5litre format) or a Formula Atlantic car under the skin if I remember. I'm sure someone will correct us.

It disappeared into the distance when Ric Wood wasn't there to snap at his heels....

And even though Tony's in his 70's, he's still on the ball. You never forget how to ride a bike!!

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Old 14 Jan 2006, 19:16 (Ref:1501273)   #28
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Andy, will it be ready for the summer?
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Old 14 Jan 2006, 19:18 (Ref:1501274)   #29
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Been here ALL the time. I see Thurstons started on me again eh? The day I stop racing with him ILL be in a box, and he knows it. What time of day do we call this? Just got up..
No, I hadn't just got up. I'd been up about an hour, after a long night's slumber (check previous post...)

What's happening to those other V8 Essencorts being built in your neck of the woods?

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Old 14 Jan 2006, 22:26 (Ref:1501366)   #30
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Andy, will it be ready for the summer?
We are picking it up from the paintshop next weekend, and are gonna start fitting it up. Engine should be ready inabout 4 weeks. It all depends on parts suppliers(as you should know). The only other problem is running my one whilst trying to get this one ready.
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 15:49 (Ref:1502442)   #31
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tony sugdens skoda was a home built tub with march f2 front suspension chevron rear he no longer owens the car he sold it to chris crawford
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 18:47 (Ref:1502576)   #32
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Some great info on here guys!

Racing 59, in late 2003 when i was researching some old special saloons, the Kitten was loacked away in a shed so yues it still very much exists. They might nedd some persuasion to get it out as their Jade supersports was their main project and the Kitten requires a strip down and a bit of attention. Hope that helps? You'd best get in touch with them to get the full SP though.

Couple of other cars that would be nice and relevant are the Grp 5 320 that is the subject of Ian Becketts thread, the one that Brian Chatfield has/had?

Also Terry Nicholls Gartrac Capri, that he ran in special saloons and then thunder saloons. I have a feeling this was an ex Stuart Graham Grp 1 car that he 'caniballised' yet still ended up with a pretty gorgeous racer. It's either in the middle of a restoration by one of Ric Woods customers or it's in the middle of someone's back garden?! Someone will know i'm sure!

Then there's that excellent Escort RSBDG that the Minton brothers ran in the 80's, then brought it back into competition a few years later for the Northern Sports Saloons after a shunt enduced rebuild?, or did someone like Rod Birley or Julian Swayland buy it?

The one that Bob Trotter ran with a Rover V8 was massively quick as well.

Either way those 2 Escorts would be good entries?
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 09:02 (Ref:1502924)   #33
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I beleive that Vince Woodman still has his GA Capri. The ex Mick Hill beetle still exists as I was talking with the owner at the NEC last weekend
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 12:01 (Ref:1503023)   #34
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Weren't the Morris brothers (or someone else) rebuilding their 309?

And one of Rod's old cars is still around doing trackdays, isn't it?
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 12:15 (Ref:1503032)   #35
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rcarr has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
I would be very interested in entering my Special Saloon Stiletto, if I get it finished in time, at the moment its in pieces on the workshop floor!
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 17:59 (Ref:1503248)   #36
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Pity this genre is not still current..........imagine a 'Smart' fitted with a V12 !
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 19:06 (Ref:1503299)   #37
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The Minton Bros Escort was very rapid with Hart 420R unit.
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Old 18 Jan 2006, 08:37 (Ref:1503595)   #38
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Smart with a V12? Merlin or Griffin?
I'm sure there's room if you mount it transverse!

I'm compiling the list of possibles. I'd like to see more "big bangers" with V8's, but then, I'm biassed!

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Old 20 Jan 2006, 15:02 (Ref:1505277)   #39
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The Minton Bros Escort was very rapid with Hart 420R unit.
I thought it had a 2-litre Cossie BDG engine? Unless there was a similar car out there as well?
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Old 20 Jan 2006, 15:25 (Ref:1505290)   #40
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Is Rob Cox's 'Black brick' Caterham still around?
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We are building a MK2 escort based on the Nick Whiting car, that run the GAA V6. The trouble is that we dont have GAA money, so are fitting a twin turbo 24v granada cosworth lump. If its ready, could we enter this?
Looks interesting Andy. I thought Nick's Escort was a flat front RS painted black and yellow sponsored by Kent Messenger. Anyway, I thought I'd have a quick check and find his droopsnoot yellow RS is featured on a Duke Video called 'Bits and Pieces vol 4'. You can also see it, on the RSOC link below - Look for Mk2 RS2000 XPack V6

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Old 21 Jan 2006, 17:32 (Ref:1506134)   #42
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seen that link. Picked the car up from the paint shop today. Just got to get this and mine ready for the 1st TRC race of the season at Brands.
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Old 24 Jan 2006, 13:21 (Ref:1508017)   #43
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Don't know, but it wouldn't be eligible for thius series would it?

His 'Black Thunder' 7.0 Sierra would though - the one he shared with Geoff Farmer in 1990/91? Dunno if that's still around.

BTW, I came across what may have been Terry Nichools old Gartrac car on a car sales website - it was an old link but it was in France in sort of gulf blue and orange, Ad stated it was ex Graham/Rouse Grp 1 car? This may be the one that Ric Wood once mentioned that he was going to strip down and restore to more original 'Faberge' shape though.

I'm sure Mr Woodman has his MK 1 Cologne Capri ready to race as well - he was sourcing a proper engine a couple of years ago?

Other cars that are worth tracking down assuming that they haven't been broken up and returned to original single seater/sportscar profile are things like:

Tony Davies Transpeed Firenza
The Jim Mensley Honda Legend
The ex Brodie/Birley Starion
The 'Stars and Sripes' Manta-Chevy that Nick Oatway pedalled
The Ecosse Manta that Hugh Chalmers and David Leslie ran nicknamed 'Bendy Bus'

That's just a few big bangers that would be excellent runners in the top 2 classes i'd guess.
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The Jim Mensley Honda Legend

The Ecosse Manta that Hugh Chalmers and David Leslie ran nicknamed 'Bendy Bus'
The Legend, was that owned by Ron Cumming anytime in its life? He ran one very similar to Jim Mensley's

The Ecosse Manta, there were two, I know that Alastair Cunningham owns one, who owns the other??
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Not sure on either point i'm afraid! Someone's bound to know though.

Is that the same Ron Cumming who ran an AC '3000M' hybrid and latterly an Esprit in Northern GT's in the '80's/'90's?
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Yes, he also ran a Lancia Statos bodied Formula 2 March in the early 90s then mid to late 90s he won Formula Libre races in the March, then bought a Footwork F1 car and broke the Knockhill lap record then went across to Ireland and now races Lolas, or so I've heard, working closely with Martin Biranne.
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That's right, i'd forgottten he had an Arrows later on!

Yeah when he had the AC he was up against the likes of Jeff Wilson's Cosworth V6 BMW M1, Jim McGaughay's Lancia-Toleman BMW F2, Tony Sugden and Jeff Farmer in Esprit's and others in mid 80's.

Did Ron race a Sierra or something in Thundersaloons later on? I can't remember him in the Legend though
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The Manta got sold and never reappeared, iirc. Someone must have it somewhere, but unless anyone can get in touch with Nick Oatway and find out who bought it....

Black Thunder eventually became the base for a car in the NW Saloons, and very little remains of the original. The "essence" is still there, tho. There was a thread in the club racing forum about it not long ago.
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The Manta got sold and never reappeared, iirc.

If its the same one, Alastair Cunningham raced it at Knockhill and Ingliston in the early 90s, I always was impressed at the speed of both the Manta and Ron's Legend! In actual fact, they werent as fast as my Imp!

My Dad and I saw Alastair Cunningham filling up his Porsche Cayenne last year, he still has the car and is willing to bring it out again for a little play, when he stopped racing it, it was in the latter day Gulf colours, ie Metallic Blue not powder blue!


Ron's Legend was black and Gold with Custom Furniture sponsoring, very like the Stratos.

He did race a Sierra Cosworth now and again at Knockhill, but it was nothing special!

A few podiums as I can remember back in 98 and 99, when we owned the Stratos bodywork, with a Tiga Sports 2000 chassis and Cossie Engine!
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Would John Cross' Focus V8 be eligible for this? I know it's a much newer car but it's still along the same lines (and it's good to watch with the quad tailpipes flaming away merrily )
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