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29 Jan 2004, 00:09 (Ref:854467)
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F1 track elevation changes
Anyone know where you can find information about relative height changes on the 2004 F1 circuits; that is, how the track rises and falls away as you go around? Most webpages on F1 circuits seem only to give a top-down view with speeds, gears etc.
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29 Jan 2004, 08:40 (Ref:854759)
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just out of interest why do you want to know? some sort of project, or just plain curosity.
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29 Jan 2004, 09:20 (Ref:854796)
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29 Jan 2004, 09:21 (Ref:854800)
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i think you're in the wrong thread mate!
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29 Jan 2004, 09:39 (Ref:854822)
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Ahh, there it is! Sorry about that.
BTW, Benny, I don't know of any single website that deals with such detail but I have found occasionally that the official homepage for the track itself tends to have pretty good detail on it's specs... Not all of them but I'd certainly give it a try. |
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29 Jan 2004, 14:54 (Ref:855198)
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29 Jan 2004, 16:07 (Ref:855272)
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I think there is actually an FIA regulation stating a maximum grade a track can have, but I suppose that doesn't necessarily limit how much total elevation can change over the course of a lap, assuming it passes the steepness rule...
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29 Jan 2004, 16:44 (Ref:855312)
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There isnt a single track in the world with a total elevation change
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29 Jan 2004, 16:47 (Ref:855315)
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29 Jan 2004, 17:51 (Ref:855387)
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Elevation can make a great track, along with trees and quick corners. I'd be interested in what the rule is and whether Eau Rouge comes close. |
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29 Jan 2004, 17:53 (Ref:855390)
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and skips at the side of the track
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1 Feb 2004, 22:22 (Ref:859526)
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Oh well, thanks guys for the advice - I'll have a look at the track websites and see if they're of any help. If worse comes to worse, guess I can wing it...
 Smoky: I'm trying to do a basic 'circuit tour' animation using a 3D modelling program. It seems that in some (most? all?) circuits gradients are an important factor - e.g. Interlagos where the track drops markedly as they go round the first few corners. Cheers. |
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1 Feb 2004, 22:26 (Ref:859529)
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I think the gradient rule is to stop corners where it's possible to become airborne in the middle like Pfantzgarten on the Nordschliefe
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4 Feb 2004, 11:43 (Ref:862510)
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Yeah... but what a spectactle f1 would be if the cars did get airbourne like yesteryear. I have photos from the 70's with lauda in the ferrari in the air.. and it looks spectacular.
Maybe if these tracks came back the manufactuers would spend less money on aero as it would be useless and the cars would take off, and more money on mechanic grip. or then again... i could just sit in front of my computer and play Grand Prix Legends -jason ps. pirenzo.. wats the status on teh detroit track project |
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4 Feb 2004, 12:30 (Ref:862594)
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I'm not sure what the suspension setups were like in the 70s, but with the very limited suspension movement and how stiff it is nowadays, I wouldn't think it would be possible to keep a modern F1 car together upon landing, or to control it, for that matter.
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4 Feb 2004, 13:23 (Ref:862653)
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It doesn't include the newest ones, but I have a book named "World MotorRacing Circuits"
It has elevations changes for following circuits. I comment some of them A1-Ring - most of you know, top point in Remus Kurve, low point at start/finish Albi Atlanta Barcelona - top at Campsa, low at Renault Bathurst Brands Hatch - up and down. Brno - low point after turn 11 Buenos Aires - flat California Speedway Charlotte Chicago Cleveland Daytona Detroit Belle Isle Dijon-Prenois Donington Park Elkhart Lake Enna-Pergusa Estoril Fuji Gateway Hockenheim (old) Homestead Hungaroring - that chart has mistakes, shows chicane (I think it's now turn 7) being very low Imola Indianapolis (oval) Interlagos Jarama Jerez Knockhill Kyalami Laguna Seca Le Mans 24h Long Beach Macau Magny-Cours Melbourne Mexico City Michigan Mid-Ohio Milwaukee Monte Carlo Montreal Monza - top at Roggia, low at Parabolica Motegi (oval)- not exactly flat Mugello Nazareth - not flat Nogaro Norisring Nürburgring (GP circuit) Oschersleben Pau Paul Ricard Phoenix Portland Rio de Janeiro (oval) Sebring Sepang - low at turn 4, top at turn 11 Silverstone Spa-Francochamps - top at Les Combes, low at Blanchimont Surfer's Paradise Suzuka Thruxton Toronto Vancouver Zandvoort Zhuhai Zolder And following legendary tracks: Nürburgring Nordschleife Pescara Reims |
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4 Feb 2004, 21:20 (Ref:863164)
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Thanks for mentioning that book Bleu, I've found it on Amazon and it's not too expensive. Might be just the ticket..
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