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Old 7 Oct 2010, 12:27 (Ref:2770823)   #51
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AFAIK the 107% rule is to be reinstated next season.
It is, and in the vast majority of races this season wouldn't have made any difference to the number of cars that qualified. It's very rare that the new teams, Lotus and Virgin especially, have been that slow in qualifying.
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Old 7 Oct 2010, 12:39 (Ref:2770828)   #52
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Wims should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridWims should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
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You said it - "Not lapping"

HK was entirely right to try and prevent MW from overtaking - they WERE in the same race ON THE SAME LAP. Why the hell should he just let him by? ....
Because its trying to keep someone behind himself would be much slower than to just let him past right away, since there was no chance he'd be able to keep him behind for long anyways. He would also minimize the chance of a potential accident by letting him by. I've done it myself a couple of times, its the only sensible thing to do really
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Old 7 Oct 2010, 14:26 (Ref:2770882)   #53
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Because its trying to keep someone behind himself would be much slower than to just let him past right away, since there was no chance he'd be able to keep him behind for long anyways. He would also minimize the chance of a potential accident by letting him by. I've done it myself a couple of times, its the only sensible thing to do really
I totally understand, but with all due respect, my guess is the stakes were slightly higher for Heikki.

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Old 7 Oct 2010, 14:27 (Ref:2770883)   #54
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fourWheelDrift should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridfourWheelDrift should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridfourWheelDrift should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridfourWheelDrift should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
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Because its trying to keep someone behind himself would be much slower than to just let him past right away, since there was no chance he'd be able to keep him behind for long anyways. He would also minimize the chance of a potential accident by letting him by. I've done it myself a couple of times, its the only sensible thing to do really
It might be prudent to let the faster car pass sometimes but it is not required by the rules nor is it the faster driver's right to pass if the slower driver chooses to make him work for it he is quite within his 'rights', in both respects it is totally different to the blue flag situation
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Old 7 Oct 2010, 14:42 (Ref:2770890)   #55
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If the 'blues' are being shown when a faster car closes to 3 seconds behind, then I think that should be looked at as it seems a bit too soon for me.

There must be few situations when a car would close a 3 second gap in three corners - or maybe I'm wrong? 3 seconds at the end of a fast straight is nearly 250 metres - how many car lengths is that?
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Old 7 Oct 2010, 21:01 (Ref:2771064)   #56
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I am sure the established teams would not want to get rid of the blue flag.....

The FIA could do what the CIK do in World Championship karting..... You have to retire once lapped or about to be lapped. I am sure Richard B would accept that as the cost of his campaign to get rid of the blue flag.....Not!
That's an absurd rule. Whether you're 1 lap down or 5 laps down, anything can happen and that car 5 laps down may earn a podium spot or even under completely ridiculous circumstances, a win.

As long as the car is keeping pace, there's no reason it shouldn't left alone.
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Old 7 Oct 2010, 23:21 (Ref:2771123)   #57
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Karting is a different world entirely and needs that rule (tracks are not long enough and the fighting in the pack is intense to a point of push and shove.)

F1 just needs to revert back to blues for check mirrors, about to be passed, show some respect and dont do anything silly. F1 this year has a lot more battle groups in the back of the grid and likewise shouldnt be penalised by having to stop and let the leaders go. Granted all tracks are not equals as aren't all corners so some intelligence will be required.

Plus allow the ability of the car to draft the car in front - not get bogged down, allowing the car behind the car doing the lapping to get an unfair advantage.
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Old 7 Oct 2010, 23:53 (Ref:2771135)   #58
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Because its trying to keep someone behind himself would be much slower than to just let him past right away, since there was no chance he'd be able to keep him behind for long anyways. He would also minimize the chance of a potential accident by letting him by. I've done it myself a couple of times, its the only sensible thing to do really
Ditto the above!

Defending against the Red Bull just shows he is completely lacking in racecraft. Plus he moved more than once!
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Old 8 Oct 2010, 05:32 (Ref:2771232)   #59
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And braked early...
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Old 8 Oct 2010, 08:53 (Ref:2771329)   #60
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Ditto the above!

Defending against the Red Bull just shows he is completely lacking in racecraft. Plus he moved more than once!
Rubbish. It showed he was in the same race on the same lap. Had he been able to keep the car behind until the end of the race people would be applauding him. No difference from what he did, to any other slower car keeping a faster one behind - its happened numerous time this year. Did you complain about that?

At which point is a car so slow that it really should let a faster car by? Who wants to make up THAT rule? What you are saying is that all cars that are slow on the track should let faster cars by. So in effect the race is decided by qualifying. Oh good. That should save me a lot of Sunday afternoons.

As to the racecraft comment. Also rubbish. HK and most drivers at this level have more than enough racecraft, or they simply wouldn't be racing at this level.
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Old 8 Oct 2010, 09:10 (Ref:2771339)   #61
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And braked early...
D'you know I could have *sworn* that the telemetry showed that wasn't the case.
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