BTCC round 16-17 and 18 snetterton 2017 - Page 4

crmalcolm · 29 Jul 2017, 11:48 (Ref:3755431)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Well wasn't it always the case he was gonna be run under a separate banner from the other BMR drivers?

He was originally a BMR Academy entry in Clios (I think), with A-plan backing and the red/white livery had been publicised. Then he was promoted to the BTCC squad, still under the BMR Academy banner but was made to run under the Adrian Flux livery until now.

crmalcolm · 29 Jul 2017, 14:58 (Ref:3755476)

Tim Harvey has just said that there was a difference in feel between the Subarus at their test, but nothing to indicate a difference in pace. Seems to suggest that the difference is down to the drivers?

crmalcolm · 29 Jul 2017, 15:25 (Ref:3755486)

BMWs put in a strong show. Sutton the class act in the BMR camp, but a late lap from Plato puts him further forward than he ever looked like getting through most of qualifying. Neal had a ride height problem that looks to put him to the rear of the grid.
Goff with a great lap to take pole.

If the Dynamics Hondas struggle to get through the field, expect the podiums to be dominated by WSR, Goff and Sutton tomorrow.

porsche962fan · 29 Jul 2017, 17:32 (Ref:3755556)

Matt Neal reinstated to P4

now poor Shedden will start 21st

and touringcartimes and their bad journalism again they say Neal is double champion but he is actually triple champion , 2005, 2006 and 2011

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The two-time champion had limited time to set a second run after the team completed checks on the car

crmalcolm · 29 Jul 2017, 17:41 (Ref:3755560)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

Matt Neal reinstated to P4

now poor Shedden will start 21st

The ride height check all looked a bit strange when it happened. The team were looking under the centre area, which made me wonder if they were going to claim damage caused the problem. To be reinstated because of an issue with the lack of qualified scrutineer does not look good for the organisers.

Shedden will need to make sure he is consistent tomorrow - it wouldn't be a surprise to see a R3 win for Shedden.

porsche962fan · 29 Jul 2017, 17:42 (Ref:3755561)

the problem for Shedden is that he is right in the DANGER ZONE

, maybe it would be safer for him to start from the pitlane to survive any potnetial carnage

and is it me or has JELLEY lost all his touch, back in 2009 he could fight for podiums and this year he is always at the back and just 1 point in half season

folks here where bashing Giovanardi for losing his touch but Gio at least managed a podium or was near podiums a lot in 2014

crmalcolm · 29 Jul 2017, 17:58 (Ref:3755581)

A pit lane start for Shedden places another 10 cars in front that he needs to pass. I would stick to a grid start and try to stay out of trouble.

Jelley is currently not targeting the same results as he was previously, his current team will have different expectations so a bit unfair to compare.

Craner Curves · 29 Jul 2017, 18:05 (Ref:3755586)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

the problem for Shedden is that he is right in the DANGER ZONE

, maybe it would be safer for him to start from the pitlane to survive any potnetial carnage

and is it me or has JELLEY lost all his touch, back in 2009 he could fight for podiums and this year he is always at the back and just 1 point in half season

folks here where bashing Giovanardi for losing his touch but Gio at least managed a podium or was near podiums a lot in 2014

They're not even in the same league. You can't compare those two.

porsche962fan · 29 Jul 2017, 19:00 (Ref:3755605)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Jelley is currently not targeting the same results as he was previously, his current team will have different expectations so a bit unfair to compare.

yes but you see Josh Cook could get top 10 results out of that Focus and Jellye just 1 point in half a season, it looks bad

well at least Steward Lines is even slower than him

crmalcolm · 29 Jul 2017, 19:21 (Ref:3755618)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

yes but you see Josh Cook could get top 10 results out of that Focus and Jellye just 1 point in half a season, it looks bad

well at least Steward Lines is even slower than him

Jelley has driven RWD all his career before this, so a better question would be why does it appear to be taking a while to adapt to FWD, rather than has he lost his ability?

S griffin · 29 Jul 2017, 19:29 (Ref:3755620)

Jelley has driven RWD all his life, also the competition is much higher this season. He may have not finished much higher than Alex Martin has, but at least he hasn't caused as many accidents

Anyway well done Goff, he's doing well now he's back with FWD, so too Turks, Sutton still ahead of Plato despite more ballast, and shocker for Flash

porsche962fan · 30 Jul 2017, 10:06 (Ref:3755876)

Tim Harvey said TOCA engine got more boost

and seems Honda got boost reduction

Sodemo · 30 Jul 2017, 10:29 (Ref:3755881)

Can UK users still stream races over the internet? I cannot find any kind of link on the ITV site...?

BillWiskins · 30 Jul 2017, 10:30 (Ref:3755882)

https://www.itv.com/hub/itv4

Edit - Assuming you meant to watch live, that is. http://www.itv.com/btcc/races for the previous races.

850Estate · 30 Jul 2017, 11:09 (Ref:3755888)

That was a bit of a mess.

porsche962fan · 30 Jul 2017, 11:09 (Ref:3755889)

poor Turkington a very rare mistake from him

MrAero · 30 Jul 2017, 11:12 (Ref:3755891)

Saved somewhat by other drivers having issues and mix results for the other title contenders. Only 4 pts off Sheddon. However Sutton's got to be strong favourite to be leading after race 2.

luckn002 · 30 Jul 2017, 11:13 (Ref:3755892)

There'll be a few penalties after that...

Sutton looking strong for the championship!

The issue of drivng standards rages on - strong words from Shaun Hollamby:
@DunlopBTCC our first race wasted by idiotic driving from others. Seems mad from a team that can't pay its bills, staff or suppliers? #666

crmalcolm · 30 Jul 2017, 11:57 (Ref:3755909)

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Originally Posted by luckn002

There'll be a few penalties after that...

Sutton looking strong for the championship!

The issue of drivng standards rages on - strong words from Shaun Hollamby:
@DunlopBTCC our first race wasted by idiotic driving from others. Seems mad from a team that can't pay its bills, staff or suppliers? #666

Seems to be more than just driving standards causing the frustration in that post?

850Estate · 30 Jul 2017, 12:00 (Ref:3755913)

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Originally Posted by luckn002

There'll be a few penalties after that...

Sutton looking strong for the championship!

The issue of drivng standards rages on - strong words from Shaun Hollamby:
@DunlopBTCC our first race wasted by idiotic driving from others. Seems mad from a team that can't pay its bills, staff or suppliers? #666

Who is he referring to here, Triple Eight/BMR I'm assuming? Jackson and AWE had contact with just about everyone around them.

crmalcolm · 30 Jul 2017, 12:17 (Ref:3755922)

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Originally Posted by 850Estate

Who is he referring to here, Triple Eight/BMR I'm assuming? Jackson and AWE had contact with just about everyone around them.

He's followed up with 'Definitely the worst driving standards today @DunlopBTCC Let's just have a fight in the bar and be done with it? My monies on Stewart Lines!'

Craner Curves · 30 Jul 2017, 12:54 (Ref:3755961)

And that is why Jack Goff will never win another race or a title. A bottle merchant.

crmalcolm · 30 Jul 2017, 13:15 (Ref:3755976)

Plato asked if he was still friends with Carl - refused to answer!

Still seems to be conflicting information from the team. It supposedly went for laser alignment tests, but only when they took the subframe off last night did they notice it wasn't aligned the same as the other cars?

porsche962fan · 30 Jul 2017, 13:43 (Ref:3755999)

if James Cole has same pace as ballast free works Hondas you know the boost adjustments aren't alright

and RWD cars seems a bit too fast for the FWD

crmalcolm · 30 Jul 2017, 14:25 (Ref:3756020)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

if James Cole has same pace as ballast free works Hondas you know the boost adjustments aren't alright

and RWD cars seems a bit too fast for the FWD

Is it really that hard to accept that a ballast free Subaru can match a ballast free Honda?
How about some praise for a good Cole performance?
Or question whether the Honda drivers have lost their mojo (as Jelley has been accused of having done)?

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