[BTCC] round 16-17 and 18 snetterton 2017

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Is it really that hard to accept that a ballast free Subaru can match a ballast free Honda?
How about some praise for a good Cole performance?
Or question whether the Honda drivers have lost their mojo (as Jelley has been accused of having done)?

I'm not saying I disagree, but question if the championship leader has lost his Mojo? The rest of the grid must be diabolically bad if that's the case. Let's be sensible here.

[porsche962fan]

Subaru boost cut for Race 3


so TOCA can adjust boost between races now ?

[Akrapovic]

Brilliant opening lap by Jordan.

Surprised we don't have a SC. Austin piled into the side of Sutton.

[Akrapovic]

Collard overtook Shedden under yellow.

Edit: Switches back. Debris everywhere.

[billy bleach]

Race 3. Matt Neal. You reap what you sow...: is there a dirtier driver?

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Race 3. Matt Neal. You reap what you sow...: is there a dirtier driver?

Aye, there's this dude called Jason.

This race is a mess. James Cole might be driving decently well but Jesus he can't defend. Driving into cars alongside, running one car off the road and giving up spots to another. It's a bit cringy to watch.

Also surprised they aren't picking up all the cars littering the circuit.

[Akrapovic]

Shame for Jordan that one.

[porsche962fan]

is Rob Austin some lose torpedo ?

[skells22]

at least this time around everyone behave themshelves on race 2 & 3 meaning today ITV4 can relax and look forward to knock hill

[porsche962fan]

think WSR behaved somewhat stupid, they could have had Shedden

[CaptRustyNail]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

is Rob Austin some lose torpedo ?

I kind of had the same impression... he needs to stop these mistakes if he wants to fight for things.

Race 1 was embarrassing. Contact happens in touring cars, agreed... but that literally was fairground bumper cars.

I was marshalling at the classic yesterday and even the races with double the grids (almost) of the BTCC could make it round the tighter corners without too much contact/issue and they're far from Britains "premier drivers"...

[Craner Curves]

Rob Austin did a brilliant Eugene O'Brien impression today.....

Some good racing amidst the chaos. OK James Cole was a bit robust, but I'd rather that than the feeble defending some other drivers do when Neal and Shedden come calling.

[850Estate]

Remarkably only two penalties after that today...And Rob has been given neither of them. Part of me is starting to think that TOCA are happy for the accidents, as it keeps the armchair semi-fan interested.

http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/two-...at-snetterton/

[tux]

Have to admit today after watching the spa 24 hours i felt very turned off the BTCC, driving standards are beginning to border on criminal. No one can pass without contact and some people just smash cars up time and time again without consequence. Not to mention the incessant whining of the Hondas despite actually winning race 3. Having said that Im not sure anyone really cares so long as ITV and the tracks are getting their ambulance chasers through the door.

[S griffin]

I feel those complaining about driving standards need to watch races from 05-06 and 10-12, or even this meeting from last season. This season's hardly compare.

Anyway Sutton is the real deal, two great wins and unlucky on first lap of R3, would have probably lead the championship otherwise. He's definitely a title contender, providing him and the Scooby keep this form going, to do it his second season of tin tops would be a first. And Cole looked like a proper BTCC driver today, mixing and passing the best today in R2 and not being intimidated by Neal in R3 and keeping pace throughout the race. Certainly makes up for the bad luck he had in Croft

Goff obviously didn't have the race pace after a mega quali, but still a good solid weekend of points throughout. Also well done Brett Smith, after bad luck in the first two races, he got a couple of well deserved points in R3 in his first meeting. One for the future

Shame BMW lost two wins through no fault of their own, Colin hitting some dirt in R1 and AJ having that mechanical problem in R3, but that's motor racing for you. Still at least both Rob and Colin had a good solid weekend of points that keep them firmly in the title race. Also what a recovery from Flash after that quali shocker, this kind of weekends decide championships

Nice to see Tingram get a solid weekend after the disappointments of Croft and Oulton, despite that coming together with Austin in R1, but TBH it's hard to see him getting back in the title fight now. Good to see Hill up there all weekend and the Audis are getting up there now. The only cars that don't seem to be capable of anything anymore are the two MGs, clearly the car seems past it's sell by date, Cook must be starting to think if he regrets the decision to rejoin them, even out of loyalty

Just glad it's all back after that summer break wait

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by 850Estate

Part of me is starting to think that TOCA are happy for the accidents, as it keeps the armchair semi-fan interested.

The opening 60 second montage on ITV's coverage should answer that.

[Alfisti]

Plato has less boost. Something I heard (read?) somewhere before but heard David Addison say during race 3 commentary - was he saying Plato had less boost than the other Subarus or that all the Subarus had less boost?

In my head I've assumed that the same cars have the same boost- so no difference between Neal/Shedden, Collard/Turkington/Jordan etc.

The Plato new subframe after qualy plays to my relationship is over awaiting the divorce theory.

Was Rob Austin ****ed or has he gone blind? Ditto that maniac Cook to a lesser degree. I liked the irony of Lines taking him out... if he hadn't jumped ship he'd have been in the far better Focus rather than being punted by it.

Ash Sutton continues to look like the man. Got to be worth a few quid for the title.

Why was Matt Neal so down on his chances on the grid fir race one? Didn't look too shabby at all!

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Plato has less boost. Something I heard (read?) somewhere before but heard David Addison say during race 3 commentary - was he saying Plato had less boost than the other Subarus or that all the Subarus had less boost?

In my head I've assumed that the same cars have the same boost- so no difference between Neal/Shedden, Collard/Turkington/Jordan etc.

The Plato new subframe after qualy plays to my relationship is over awaiting the divorce theory.

Was Rob Austin ****ed or has he gone blind? Ditto that maniac Cook to a lesser degree. I liked the irony of Lines taking him out... if he hadn't jumped ship he'd have been in the far better Focus rather than being punted by it.

Ash Sutton continues to look like the man. Got to be worth a few quid for the title.

Why was Matt Neal so down on his chances on the grid fir race one? Didn't look too shabby at all!

All of the Subarus had boost reductions before race three.

[porsche962fan]

indeed ,

Neal and Tingram are now pretty much out of the title picture , it's Shedden against 3 RWD cars



BTW did Hitachi sell more excavators due their sponsorship of WSR ?


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[MagicBoy]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Ash Sutton continues to look like the man. Got to be worth a few quid for the title.

33-1 pre-season, 6/5 last time I checked. I should have had a wee flutter on that one...

[Moneyseeker]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

indeed ,

Neal and Tingram are now pretty much out of the title picture , it's Shedden against 3 RWD cars



BTW did Hitachi sell more excavators due their sponsorship of WSR ?


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I am sure they already have done....to Rob Collard which is why they are on the car!

[S griffin]

One who's really been out of luck lately is Morgan, he seems to not be able to get a good result for toffee.

[Minicross424]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Race 3. Matt Neal. You reap what you sow...: is there a dirtier driver?

I was watching from Bentley's and it did indeed seem like Neal got what he deserved.
Same with Plato, he tried to nerf Jelley and just ran him out wide. Get in.

[S griffin]

Looked on the TV like Matt lost in on his own, possible wheel on the grass

[Sodemo]

Originally Posted by Minicross424

I was watching from Bentley's and it did indeed seem like Neal got what he deserved.
Same with Plato, he tried to nerf Jelley and just ran him out wide. Get in.

Av it.