Melbourne 2006 - Won't be Round 1

RaceTime · 15 Jan 2004, 08:32 (Ref:838963)

Any bets yet as to where Melbourne will end up in the Championship in 2006 - the Commonwealth Games are being run in Melburne that year and it was announced today that the F1 GP will not be able to take its usual start of March place in the Championship.

Given the time required to set up the circuit it looks like it won't be able to run until at least the end of April - so where will it end up??

Betting opens tomorrow

Wrex · 15 Jan 2004, 08:38 (Ref:838966)

Where did you get this time RT? (You may want to enlighten those from out of town why this effects the GP)

If it does move, it will be at the end of the year like Adelaide.

RaceTime · 15 Jan 2004, 08:49 (Ref:838974)

Had heard rumours this morning on talk back radio in Melbourne - but was also in todays Melbourne papers and ABC TV News tonight at 7.

The Commonwealth Games are being held in Melbourne in 2006 and run for 2 weeks. As I understand it they will run from March 15 to 26th 2006 - because of this the GP circuit wouldn't be able to be dismantled in time and numerous Albert Park venues will be used for the games - thus, it appears, it rules out having the GP on the first weekend of March - and, again as I understand it, it cannot be held earlier.

Remember that it takes them around 2-3 months setting up the GP and about a month to dismantle.

However - I wouldn't bet on an end of year fixture either.

Skam85 · 15 Jan 2004, 10:11 (Ref:839030)

IMO.....

BRING BACK ADELAIDE!!!!!!!

The second best street circuit in the world!

RaceTime · 15 Jan 2004, 10:18 (Ref:839038)

It won't be run anywhere else at the same time as the majority of the organising people for the GP are the same people rganising theCommonwealth Games - Ron Walker etc...

jetsetter · 15 Jan 2004, 10:54 (Ref:839076)

I would like to see us have the last round of the championship in 2006 & hopefully host a decider.

Mattracer · 15 Jan 2004, 11:02 (Ref:839080)

Quote:

Originally posted by Skam85
IMO.....

BRING BACK ADELAIDE!!!!!!!

The second best street circuit in the world!

And what's the first? Monaco?

Mattracer · 15 Jan 2004, 11:03 (Ref:839083)

Quote:

Originally posted by jetsetter
I would like to see us have the last round of the championship in 2006 & hopefully host a decider.

Agree, it's much more interestinmg IF it turns out to be decider. The roll out of the new cars is good to see as well but much of the time you're waiting for whoever DNFs first.

RaceTime · 15 Jan 2004, 11:11 (Ref:839093)

To host the last round would mean a major shuffle - especially when you consider the final round, for the past few years, has clashed with Bathurst....

DriverT · 15 Jan 2004, 14:20 (Ref:839257)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mattracer
And what's the first? Monaco?

Yes.

ralf fan · 15 Jan 2004, 14:36 (Ref:839272)

Melbourne season opener ADELAIDE season end... thats what id like to see.

429CJ · 15 Jan 2004, 17:41 (Ref:839440)

Brasil the years 1st GP, Australian the last, like it was for some years.

x_dt · 15 Jan 2004, 21:10 (Ref:839613)

Quote:

Originally posted by Skam85
BRING BACK ADELAIDE!!!!!!!

Hear, hear.

Bring back Adelaide - the sooner the better (but will it ever happen?)

fordtc87 · 15 Jan 2004, 21:38 (Ref:839643)

It can't take 2-3 months to setup a grandprix. The US grand prix has 17 days to be setup between the Indy 500 and the US Grand Prix in 2004. That is moving walls, moving bleachers that sit in front of the garges, etc.

RaceTime · 15 Jan 2004, 21:59 (Ref:839663)

From when they start moving the barriers in - that is what they currently take.

But regardless of that - the powers that be have already decided that the March 15 start date is too close to the GP and, whether we like it or not, the date will apparently be changing.

hgmonaro · 15 Jan 2004, 23:22 (Ref:839771)

Quote:

Originally posted by fordtc87
It can't take 2-3 months to setup a grandprix. The US grand prix has 17 days to be setup between the Indy 500 and the US Grand Prix in 2004. That is moving walls, moving bleachers that sit in front of the garges, etc.

Melbourne is constructed in/on a public park and roads. they have to bring everything in (except pit garages I guess... I think that's part of the swim centre that's needed for the Commonwealth Games... I've driven past many times and never really taken much notice!) During this time the road and park are still open to the public, and only get closed in the last week or so. that's probably why it takes so long.

RWC · 16 Jan 2004, 00:35 (Ref:839837)

As an australian i must admit melbourne certainly doesn't deserve the last round.Purely to do with the track-it's an interesting track in it's small way but it's definitely not even remotely a place i would like to see champions to be battling it out.Suzuka deserves that honour + MAYBE other tracks

fordtc87 · 16 Jan 2004, 00:42 (Ref:839846)

Quote:

Originally posted by hgmonaro
Melbourne is constructed in/on a public park and roads. they have to bring everything in (except pit garages I guess... I think that's part of the swim centre that's needed for the Commonwealth Games... I've driven past many times and never really taken much notice!) During this time the road and park are still open to the public, and only get closed in the last week or so. that's probably why it takes so long.

Thanks hg, I didn't realize that the track was streets. I thought that it was a perminate facility. I understand now. As for having the last race, I think that is an honor. Like last year you have the suspense of deciding the title. I have not been there but IMO the track is exciting and beautiful to watch on tv.

CLK-GTR · 16 Jan 2004, 07:17 (Ref:840020)

really really liking that Adelaide idea

Skam85 · 16 Jan 2004, 07:35 (Ref:840028)

When Ayrton Senna was alive, he was a big supporter for the Adelaide race, if he was still around, do you think the race would still be on?

And Bathurst would be a GREAT F1 race!!!

Mattracer · 16 Jan 2004, 09:53 (Ref:840130)

Quote:

Originally posted by RWC
As an australian i must admit melbourne certainly doesn't deserve the last round.Purely to do with the track-it's an interesting track in it's small way but it's definitely not even remotely a place i would like to see champions to be battling it out.Suzuka deserves that honour + MAYBE other tracks

I would agree, Suzuka would be the most complete circuit in the world STILL left on the calndar although it would be great to have the finalround in Australia regardless.

Mattracer · 16 Jan 2004, 09:58 (Ref:840136)

Quote:

Originally posted by Skam85
When Ayrton Senna was alive, he was a big supporter for the Adelaide race, if he was still around, do you think the race would still be on?

And Bathurst would be a GREAT F1 race!!!

If he was still here he would be in some advisory role by now (44 yrs of age

) and would have been a representative for all of the drivers so the cahnces are that any circuit worth it's salt as a RACING circuit as opposed to a procession circuit would hve got the nod.

Bathurst wopuld never make the cut because the safety walls could never be removed and blind corners would obstruct the vision in low slung F1 cars. Nice dream though

Hazza · 16 Jan 2004, 11:16 (Ref:840217)

If brazil stays 2nd last round, racing melborne last round would work.

Melborne works well for a descider because it has Turn One which is a place where you can overtake, which is why Montreal/Monnaco/Budapest won't ever hold a decider, and nor will Jerez

("What engine is in the back of the sauber"
"..look martin..."
"Its a ferrari isn't it?"
"you are awfully pesamistic martin...")

I'm having a bad spelling day.

RaceTime · 17 Jan 2004, 02:45 (Ref:841156)

The current talk, from Ron Walker, is that the current Rounds 1 and 2 may swap. But, as he points out, this decision will not be made until next year anyway.

esorniloc · 17 Jan 2004, 10:20 (Ref:841399)

Why not run the race in Feb then?

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