coulthard

kpm · 10 Nov 2001, 22:13 (Ref:173048)

what does david coulthard have over ron dennis that keeps him in a mclaren ???

**Bononi** · 10 Nov 2001, 22:20 (Ref:173052)

What do YOU think ?

kpm · 10 Nov 2001, 22:24 (Ref:173053)

me thinks he is a lucky man to keep his seat

**Aysedasi** · 10 Nov 2001, 22:28 (Ref:173056)

There has to be some reason surely, kpm? Personally, I don't feel that talent behind the wheel has too much to do with it (when there are so many seemingly more highly talented drivers around at the moment).

paulzinho · 10 Nov 2001, 22:57 (Ref:173070)

Can't you see people, it's because next year is his year!!!

**Bononi** · 10 Nov 2001, 23:06 (Ref:173074)

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Originally posted by paulzinho
Can't you see people, it's because next year is his year!!!

Politician words, DC is a politician !!!!

srinimax · 10 Nov 2001, 23:10 (Ref:173077)

every year is his year, but only he believes that

f1manoz · 11 Nov 2001, 03:06 (Ref:173129)

RD has had plenty of chances to offload DC but hasn't taken the oppurtunity. However, I think the main reason he's been kept is because of his working relationship with Mika. They got on well together and helped each other immensely and it kept the team in relative harmony.

And the reason DC is there next year is that Mika's announcement was made AFTER DC had been resigned.

BootsOntheSide · 11 Nov 2001, 06:24 (Ref:173145)

DC is not a natural champion, and in 2002 we will see this. Kimi will run him close, and a good car will be wasted. DC has had his chances yet every year Mika has been the better. Even now Kimi will challegne and beat DC.

ljakse · 11 Nov 2001, 10:35 (Ref:173198)

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Originally posted by kpm
what does david coulthard have over ron dennis that keeps him in a mclaren ???

I think it's very simple - he os the only driver on the grid that is no2 in his team without his contract saying it, and it's probably cheaper that way.

**Aysedasi** · 11 Nov 2001, 13:23 (Ref:173246)

I think DC is going to have to work VERY hard to make 2002 his year. Personally, I expect Raikkonen to have the upper hand, maybe not for the first few GPs, but when he settles in - DC had better watch out!

Crash and Burn · 11 Nov 2001, 13:30 (Ref:173249)

no offence to DC or Mcl - but
a) He's passed it
b) He never got the chance after his old work mate had his head up are body part of someone else

**Aysedasi** · 11 Nov 2001, 13:35 (Ref:173253)

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Originally posted by Crash and Burn
no offence to DC or Mcl - but
a) He's passed it
b) He never got the chance after his old work mate had his head up are body part of someone else

Yes, Ron didn't exactly treat him like his son, did he?!

Glen · 11 Nov 2001, 16:10 (Ref:173289)

That Ron Dennis perseveres with DC is indicative, I feel, of his (RD's) increasing preference for staff that toe the line and do as they're told. He missed out on JV wen he had the chance, and at that time there was discussion that only certain types would make Mclaren Men. JV, and others with a bit of maveric spirit, would never be tolerated as such a control-obsessed team.

**Aysedasi** · 11 Nov 2001, 16:43 (Ref:173314)

Ayrton being the exception........?

**Bononi** · 11 Nov 2001, 17:06 (Ref:173321)

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Originally posted by Aysedasi
Ayrton being the exception........?

Yes.

Glen · 11 Nov 2001, 17:11 (Ref:173323)

Yes - that's what I meant by his increasing preference.

Dwelling on that for a little longer - it's interesting that Ron Dennis' attitude in the Senna days seemed very much different to today. When he signed Senna he paid a very big sum (not as big as Senna wanted!) because he was convinced that he needed the very best.

AndyF · 11 Nov 2001, 17:37 (Ref:173330)

Neither Coulthard or Raikkonen will win the championship - and they will finish in third place in the construcotrs table...... well hopefully anyway!!!

paulzinho · 11 Nov 2001, 17:42 (Ref:173333)

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Originally posted by Glen
Yes - that's what I meant by his increasing preference.

Dwelling on that for a little longer - it's interesting that Ron Dennis' attitude in the Senna days seemed very much different to today. When he signed Senna he paid a very big sum (not as big as Senna wanted!) because he was convinced that he needed the very best.

Yeah they couldn't agree over the last half a million so they flipped a coin and Ron won.

It was later that day or something that Senna realised it was ONE and a half million because it was a three year contract!

**Bononi** · 11 Nov 2001, 18:50 (Ref:173364)

The old Ron.

Don K · 11 Nov 2001, 19:19 (Ref:173372)

Hm ... Let me see ...

1999: 4th in the WDC.
2000: 3th in the WDC.
2001: 2th in the WDC.
....

I agree.
Kick him out, before it's too late!

BBKing · 11 Nov 2001, 19:54 (Ref:173388)

You have forgotten that DC look much better than Hakkinen in 97. One of this days DC will make you all ashamed of bashing him. Either that or I will have to eat my words once again….LOL

**Aysedasi** · 11 Nov 2001, 20:10 (Ref:173399)

Pass him the Tabasco.....!!

srinimax · 12 Nov 2001, 00:13 (Ref:173472)

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Originally posted by BBKing
You have forgotten that DC look much better than Hakkinen in 97. One of this days DC will make you all ashamed of bashing him. Either that or I will have to eat my words once again….LOL

surely you jest

BogaziciF1Club · 12 Nov 2001, 03:25 (Ref:173507)

I did not understant the person who started this subject why he is so agresive about coulthard...

I think he had tried so much with hakkinen in this season but the technical performance of Mp4-16 was not enough...

So how can a driver be champion when his car is so bad even M.Schumacher...

Think that David get more points than Hakkinen in this season...

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