Round 5: The 98th Indianapolis 500, 23 - 25 May, 2014

[rustyfan]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Having seen the replay of the crash a number of times, I can't really make out where the car's supposed to have left the ground. I posted the clip of the crash here #112 .

20 seconds in; the rear end briefly lifts off the ground after having hit the wall.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by rustyfan

20 seconds in; the rear end briefly lifts off the ground after having hit the wall.

That it does and that's all it does, which isn't that surprising considering the force with which it hit the wall.

[FordCosworthPanoz]

Originally Posted by HJJ

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3.8 Final 5.9 million viewers up from 3.7 and 5.7 million respectively last year. Disappointing considering the Busch hype but not surprising considering past trends and the general decline of auto racing in the states. Busch probably helped it from sliding though so I guess you could say it was a success and that IMS may try to get more stock car drivers to do Indy in the future.

Coke 600 got a 3.9 overnight which will probably increase to a 4.0 or 4.1 final. Way down from last year as usual for Sprint Cup this year but they still beat Indy.

Loads of empty aluminum at both Indy and Charlotte as well.

[FordCosworthPanoz]

The 500 probably had a better chance to run caution free last year with cool conditions, when you have warmer weather handling plays a much larger role on ovals. Probably why it was harder to pass this year as well and why good cars like the Andretti cars and Will Power's could actually pull away at times.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

3.8 Final 5.9 million viewers up from 3.7 and 5.7 million respectively last year. Disappointing considering the Busch hype but not surprising considering past trends and the general decline of auto racing in the states. Busch probably helped it from sliding though so I guess you could say it was a success and that IMS may try to get more stock car drivers to do Indy in the future.

Coke 600 got a 3.9 overnight which will probably increase to a 4.0 or 4.1 final. Way down from last year as usual for Sprint Cup this year but they still beat Indy.

Loads of empty aluminum at both Indy and Charlotte as well.

What great unbiased analysis as ever

TV figures are up and you say its disappointing? More eyes on Indycar can only be a good thing.

Pruett and Miller also reported the Speedway being busier and better attendance this year - which can also only be a positive.

Not game changers on any front - but small progress is a positive

[Paradise City]

Well, NASCAR has the option in reserve to put an end to all future 'doin' the double' fun simply by scheduling the 600 closer to the 500.

[Mystery]

Originally Posted by Paradise City

Well, NASCAR has the option in reserve to put an end to all future 'doin' the double' fun simply by scheduling the 600 closer to the 500.

Not sure why they'd want to though. I think it generated some publicity for both the racers and the taxi drivers. The fact Kurt made a great showing only helps too.

[FordCosworthPanoz]

Originally Posted by Paradise City

Well, NASCAR has the option in reserve to put an end to all future 'doin' the double' fun simply by scheduling the 600 closer to the 500.

Unless NASCAR just wants to be a troll they have no real reason for doing that. It's not like Kurt Busch doing the double hurt Charlotte ratings as NASCAR ratings have been down all season, and it didn't even move Indy ratings up beyond the margin of Nielson error (not that I expect the average Ten Tenths hivemind poster to understand basic US media research and television ratings in general as so many here widely demonstrate).

If anything with all the empty seats at Charlotte NASCAR should be more worried about that race than Indy 'competition' that only exists once a year.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Unless NASCAR just wants to be a troll they have no real reason for doing that. It's not like Kurt Busch doing the double hurt Charlotte ratings as NASCAR ratings have been down all season, and it didn't even move Indy ratings up beyond the margin of Nielson error (not that I expect the average Ten Tenths hivemind poster to understand basic US media research and television ratings in general as so many here widely demonstrate).

If anything with all the empty seats at Charlotte NASCAR should be more worried about that race than Indy 'competition' that only exists once a year.

For the average Ten Tenths hivemind poster to understand basic US media research and television ratings, could you explain how it all works please?

[Paradise City]

They can be very paranoid, and can barely abide real or perceived competitors, that's why they might resort to scheduling sabotage.

But I agree with you guys. There's no reason the two events can't drive each other on. I hope they are sober enough to see it that way.

[FordCosworthPanoz]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

For the average Ten Tenths hivemind poster to understand basic US media research and television ratings, could you explain how it all works please?

Nielson ratings. Google Search. Done. The Internet is an amazing place.

Just don't call me biased when I say a race that was significantly hyped with a top NASCAR star and major increases in all NASCAR-Hub media markets ratings had an actual increase that was so insignificant it was below the Nielson margin of error, had 'disappointing' ratings.

I'm obviously not referring to you bjohnsonsmith in the second part of my post, just to be clear.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Nielson ratings. Google Search. Done. The Internet is an amazing place.

Just don't call me biased when I say a race that was significantly hyped with a top NASCAR star and major increases in all NASCAR-Hub media markets ratings had an actual increase that was so insignificant it was below the Nielson margin of error, had 'disappointing' ratings.

I Googled Nielsen ratings, as suggested and I came across this very comprehensive and detailed entry on Wikipedia, about the Nielsen ratings, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_ratings. Indeed the internet is an amazing place, .

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

I'm obviously not referring to you bjohnsonsmith in the second part of my post, just to be clear.

It never crossed my mind..

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Just don't call me biased when I say a race that was significantly hyped with a top NASCAR star and major increases in all NASCAR-Hub media markets ratings had an actual increase that was so insignificant it was below the Nielson margin of error, had 'disappointing' ratings.

Nah - not biased at all Definitely not when looking historically at the tone of previous posts over the past couple of years.

Motorsport media have all been positive on the progress of the 2014 event over previous years.