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3 Sep 2009, 18:04 (Ref:2533951) | #26 | ||
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Don`t get me wrong, I do like the DTM cars - they look good, sound great, and are just mighty impressive all round. Some of the drivers aren`t too shabby either.
But.... I like Formula Renault, and Formula 3 as well (), however, unless the weather forecast is for rain, I KNOW that if I go to watch a race at Brands Indy it will absolutely suck !!!!!! I seriously doubt whether I will see more than one, or at the most two, serious overtaking manoevres for position at Brands during the race on Sunday, AFTER the opening lap. |
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However, I just got clearance for a very truncated visit (it's a busy weekend at home) So if you see a Red 308 rock up in the South Bank car park 15 minutes before the start of the DTM race and depart as it finishes, say Hi. |
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4 Sep 2009, 10:34 (Ref:2534312) | #28 | ||
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Oh,shame on me! I've always thought that the main idea of racing is to identify the best combination driver+car+team on a certain track in certain circumstances and conditions. And overtaking is secondary to that main reason of racing. It's spicy but not necessary.
OK. Let's better stop that debate - we are looking for different things watching racing. It's normal. I've just pointed my point of view,it can be wrong. And,yes,I've watched Knockhill. I like that circuit since Toca Race Driver 2,and I decided to drive some more laps in a mod for GTR2. I've always said that narrow tracks with huge elevation changes are the best for touring cars. And as for sportscars (prototypes,which are closer to DTM) - the long layout is better. I've watched '88 WSC event,and it was very interesting. |
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Anyway, back to DTM - shame about the timetable this year, I quite liked the free practice being on the Friday also a bummer about the inside of Druids being unavailable again, that's a great spot. |
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4 Sep 2009, 13:18 (Ref:2534407) | #30 | ||
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Is there any 'live timing' - not only DTM but the support categories - at this race meeting?
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Not somewhere I go very often but it's got to be one of the best places for photographers without a press pass... |
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4 Sep 2009, 14:41 (Ref:2534451) | #35 | ||
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Sad news for russian fans. 7tv stop broadcasting DTM and all racing series including national because of transformation into an entertainment channel from a sports one.
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It's to do with the big spinning camera on a cherry picker isn't it?
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I think if it was just because of the swingy camerman then the very top bit of Druids would be fenced off, but the rest left open. I was told by the guys who shut it that it was lack of debris fencing. That is the very same reason that "heras" fencing is currently in place at Surtees, to move everyone back from the huge amounts of debris that are constantly coming into the spectator area down there!!!
Paddock strangely "open" today but expect it will be diff tomorrow. (Re my previous post - I meant that single seaters with too much grip and too little downforce are always tedious around Brands Indy. Everything else is fine, apart from the saloons which are trying to be single seaters of course (WTCC, BTCC, DTM etc)). |
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I agree with Andy, run the thing behind closed doors, ideally on a Monday.
Its OK to stand inside Druids with trucks thundering by, but the precious Germans must have total control and Druids is another no go area, maybe they are worried that one of their taxi drivers might loose control and the fee paying passenger vomits in the area |
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1 Paul Di Resta 41.849 2 Timo Scheider 41.970 00.121 3 Jamie Green 42.039 00.190 4 Oliver Jarvis 42.056 00.207 5 Gary Paffett 42.122 00.273 6 Mattias Ekström 42.133 00.284 7 Maro Engel 42.166 00.317 8 Tom Kristensen 42.185 00.336 9 Markus Winkelhock 42.217 00.368 10 Martin Tomczyk 42.233 00.384 11 Bruno Spengler 42.241 00.392 12 Mike Rockenfeller 42.302 00.453 13 Mathias Lauda 42.401 00.552 14 Katherine Legge 42.447 00.598 15 Susie Stoddart 42.525 00.676 16 Ralf Schumacher 42.526 00.677 17 Alexandre Prémat 42.578 00.729 18 Tomas Kostka 42.794 00.945 19 Johannes Seidlitz 43.532 01.683 20 Christian Bakkerud 43.588 01.739 |
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15. Prémat/FRA 42.258 16. Legge/GBR 42.294 17. Lauda/AUT 42.322 18. Kostka/CZE 42.786 19. Bakkerud/DEN 43.111 20. Seidlitz/GER 43.438 Paul and Bruno are very quick so far. I think, their aggresive style helps to warm up tyres better. |
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5 Sep 2009, 12:05 (Ref:2534882) | #42 | ||
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9. Jarvis/GBR 41.773
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Bruno by a nose in 8th there.
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5. Tomczyk/GER 41.777
6. Paffett/GBR 41.825 7. Ekström/SWE 41.855 8. Green/GBR 41.986 |
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5 Sep 2009, 12:31 (Ref:2534893) | #45 | ||
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1. Di Resta/GBR 41.750
2. Scheider/GER 41.831 3. Kristensen/DEN 41.837 4. Spengler/CAN 41.938 I've expected more from Bruno. But 4th - is rather high. |
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5 Sep 2009, 12:37 (Ref:2534897) | #46 | ||
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Well done Paul Di Resta, at home, sort of.
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I have a question. Eki and some other Audis threw sparks under rear axle. Does it mean that rear suspension was softer? If it was soft, they try to overcome understeering? Or oversteering? Or am I completely wrong?
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1 - Paul di Resta (3) - HWA Mercedes - Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse - 41.750 2 - Timo Scheider (1) - Audi Sport Team Abt - Audi A4 DTM - 41.831 3 - Tom Kristensen (2) - Audi Sport Team Abt - Audi A4 DTM - 41.837 4 - Bruno Spengler (9) - HWA Mercedes - Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse - 41.938 5 - Martin Tomczyk (6) - Audi Sport Team Abt - Audi A4 DTM - 41.777 6 - Gary Paffett (10) - HWA Mercedes - Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse - 41.825 7 - Mattias Ekstrom (5) - Audi Sport Team Abt - Audi A4 DTM - 41.855 8 - Jamie Green (7) - HWA Mercedes - Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse - 41.986 9 - Oliver Jarvis (15) - Audi Sport Team Phoenix - Audi A4 DTM - 41.773 10 - Markus Winkelhock (12) - Audi Sport Team Rosberg - Audi A4 DTM - 41.821 11 - Ralf Schumacher (4) - HWA Mercedes - Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse - 41.896 12 - Mike Rockenfeller (11) - Audi Sport Team Rosberg - Audi A4 DTM - 42.035 13 - Maro Engel (16) - HWA Mercedes - Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse - 42.463 14 - Susie Stoddart (8) - HWA Mercedes - Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse - 42.602 15 - Alexandre Prémat (14) - Audi Sport Team Phoenix - Audi A4 DTM - 42.258 16 - Katherine Legge (21) - Audi Sport Team Abt - Audi A4 DTM - 42.294 17 - Mathias Lauda (17) - HWA Mercedes - Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse - 42.322 18 - Tomas Kostka (20) - Futurecom-TME - Audi A4 DTM - 42.786 19 - Christian Bakkerud (18) - Futurecom-TME - Audi A4 DTM - 43.111 20 - Johannes Seidlitz (19) - Futurecom-TME - Audi A4 DTM - 43.438 |
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I missed the interviews but Paul must be feeling pretty good about that wee outing.
WTCC & European Tourers have the best startaufstellungs. |
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I haven't the least idea Helgi but it didn't slow-up Scheider much. And if I may, how on earth are you watching qualifying live?
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