[BTCC] BTCC Brands Hatch indy rounds 1,2 & 3 2012

[dex92]

I thought Toby Moody was excelent, agrre with the person above regarding Tim but i suppse he hasnt commentated since November so will pob be back to his usual best for Donny.

[Thundersports]

I thought the curfew was 6pm.

[ascarmarshal]

Originally Posted by Thundersports

I thought the curfew was 6pm.

It is 6:30

[Minicross424]

Towing straps are now law in the msa rule book are they not?
I used to have a large metal eye but was made to change it for the useless strap.
Plato makes me so angry, he thinks its ok just to punt people off and that move on Newsham was never on.
Was I the only one to notice that on the race three podium that Andrew Jordan would not even make eye contact with Jason?

[Thaw Daggerslash]

Originally Posted by nickyf1

I thought Toby was excellent. ''You spin me right round baby!''

Tim Harvey didn't appear to be firing on all cylinders this weekend..

Eh. I guess I'll get used to him over the year, but stuff like "This is bumping and this is on the graaaaaaaaaass" - can he just not commentate normally?

[Tim Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by Minicross424

Towing straps are now law in the msa rule book are they not?
I used to have a large metal eye but was made to change it for the useless strap.
Plato makes me so angry, he thinks its ok just to punt people off and that move on Newsham was never on.
Was I the only one to notice that on the race three podium that Andrew Jordan would not even make eye contact with Jason?

I think the rule just gives a diameter needed for a towing attachment, and the only feasible way to achieve that is with a strap. I may well be wrong, though, I haven't thoroughly checked the blue book in a couple of years.

I agree totally about Plato. He should have been DQ'd from race 1 IMO. Anyone else winning a race on a car's competitive debut I'd be impressed by, but the manner he does it (and then acts holier-than-thou after) really grates with me. I turned off as soon as the chequer fell and it went to the in-car - I have no interest in hearing the commentators try to see if there's any room left up Plato's backside with himself already in there.

[nicanary]

Originally Posted by Minicross424

Towing straps are now law in the msa rule book are they not?
I used to have a large metal eye but was made to change it for the useless strap.
Plato makes me so angry, he thinks its ok just to punt people off and that move on Newsham was never on.
Was I the only one to notice that on the race three podium that Andrew Jordan would not even make eye contact with Jason?

I don't usually come on this thread, and I don't follow the BTCC, but I agree about those moves by Plato. I saw the last race, and couldn't believe it- presumably this is now standard practice in this series. I know the spectators love it, so perhaps the stewards allow it to keep the peace.

If you nudge a car on full power on the rear three-quarter, it will nearly always slew or spin, and certainly lose momentum. JP did it deliberately.Surely second place in the first season for the car would have been good enough, or is the pressure to win that hard?

I can't see success helping sell the cars - the road test in this month's Motor Sport is pretty damning.

[BertMk2]

Well that was an interesting day at Brands! Incidents in just about all the races but it has to be said Plato really does need sorting out - the move on Newsham was never on, Plato used the pitlane exit and grass to get alongside him, I'd have said it was "all four wheels off" anyway even without the punt. The worst bit about it is that you know it's coming - Plato gets up behind another driver and you're just waiting for the punt. Year after year he gets away with it - why? On the plus side I though Lea Wood had a good day in the Vectra and Newsham had a good recovery from the punt.

[touringlegend]

I see Gordon Shedden has lost his Race 3 4th place because the team worked on his car during the red flag. Shame as that was a good drive from him.

[Piglet]

Originally Posted by touringlegend

I see Gordon Shedden has lost his Race 3 4th place because the team worked on his car during the red flag. Shame as that was a good drive from him.

Interestingly (for the anoraks amongst us) that's not what the notification on the result say, it says "not running at time of red flag".

http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=major...&tabletype=gif

[bdwoody]

it might be good telly to some but plato was out of order, does no one have the balls to penalise him ?
we , as drivers have been told to not exceed the track limits and i goes without saying you dont punt some one off to gain a place you race your way around the bloke in front , not through them !!

[trebor901]

Plato was totally out of order and liked seeing Matt Neal give as good as he got in race 2

Oh and today the marshalls negligence to the value of the cars was p*** poor, ripped the front off of Smiths Focus then done the same to the back and the front of the Golf. No excuse for this. Oh and they ripped the front bumper off of Newshams Vectra aswell, everyone sat around me was shouting in disgust. I normally wont critisize marshalls but today they were just being totally ignorant.

[safc_fan89]

It's very well saying Plato should have been disqualified etc, but it wasn't just him that caused a collision throughout the three races. People like to criticise him but what of the others that caused needless collisions?

[ascarracinguk]

Originally Posted by Minicross424

Towing straps are now law in the msa rule book are they not?
I used to have a large metal eye but was made to change it for the useless strap.
Plato makes me so angry, he thinks its ok just to punt people off and that move on Newsham was never on.
Was I the only one to notice that on the race three podium that Andrew Jordan would not even make eye contact with Jason?

Erm look at the video again, Plato and Jordan were laughing and joking on the podium

[Sodemo]

For the person who asked how did Foster end up on his roof, he had a big powerslide on the exit of Druids and couldn't/didn't save it, he then went into the inside barrier backwards and hard, then flipped. No other cars were involved. I was sat in the Paddock grandstand and saw it all.

[Tom Bee]

Platos driving was poor the move on Newsham was 100% his fault IMO which was clear to see if u looked where Platos car ended up, there was no chance that it would of worked. I think Newsham was in the right and I thought it was insane that Plato was blaming him.

I dont want to critisise the marshals as I am 1 (Oulton Park), however I do think they went the wrong way about snatching Smiths car.

[Burp]

The problem is made worse by the gravel at Brands, works better than most other circuits. It actually stops cars

[touringlegend]

Originally Posted by Piglet

Interestingly (for the anoraks amongst us) that's not what the notification on the result say, it says "not running at time of red flag".

http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=major...&tabletype=gif

I did think as he was already in the pits and being worked on it's strange they can exclude him for his car being worked on.

But if that's the case then surely they shouldn't have allowed him to take the restart?

[trebor901]

Originally Posted by Burp

The problem is made worse by the gravel at Brands, works better than most other circuits. It actually stops cars

Yeah but thats not the point, it happens almost every time BTCC goes to Brands ive even seen it on more than one occasion where a marshall somehow managed to get one of them massive crane/snatch vehicles stuck in the gravel causing an even longer safety car period

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Will ITV stay with it, though?

My Sky box didn't. Which was a blessing in a way as I didn't have to endure an extended Tesco advert after the chequered flag dropped.

Originally Posted by nickyf1

I thought Toby was excellent. ''You spin me right round baby!''

Tim Harvey didn't appear to be firing on all cylinders this weekend..

JP should've supplied him with some Kx.

Toby Moody was alright, a bit hesitant at times and some identifying issues, but not bad. He looks younger than he sounds!

I wish I'd had money on Plato winning race three, it was on the cards. Just like 2009......

Shocking amount of crashes today in all the classes, first day over-exuberism?

[Bodysnatcher]

You think it is marshals that drive the JCBs @ Brands - wrong.
Circuit staff.

[Sodemo]

What did O'Neil say about a possible return? Did he mention the Cruzes? Whats the deal?

[trebor901]

Originally Posted by Bodysnatcher

You think it is marshals that drive the JCBs @ Brands - wrong.
Circuit staff.

well then they need some damn good training on how to use them properly because they are awful at times

[slummingangel]

when they say four wheels off track is the boundary the track edge of the kerbing or the grass edge of the kerbing?

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

What did O'Neil say about a possible return? Did he mention the Cruzes? Whats the deal?

Cars are sitting there ready with Toca turbo power, but no funds to run them.