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Old 25 Nov 2015, 13:10 (Ref:3593233)   #31
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Old Silverstone was great. Old (non butchered) Spa was AMAZING.

Now Silverstone has been renovated from happy daycare center to some sterile featurless hospital room that you need to visit to have your testicles tested for cancer. Spa is the girl you knew in high school and had crush on, but has had 87 different cosmetic surgeries since then and now you rather date your pet rabbit than her. But I guess you can at least still phone to the girl without feeling too uneasy, unlike with the clinic.

If they weren't pre LM practice rounds they'd be worthless to me. Well unless this was still ILMC and ELMS was integrated to the world series to make the races events by themselves.

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Old 25 Nov 2015, 15:57 (Ref:3593268)   #32
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OK, to state the obvious, why would the WEC go to a non-F1/non-Grade 1 track? The WEC’s business model is pretty clear: aside from Le Mans, the series wants to race at the same circuits as F1, as a means of suggesting that they’re top-rate, just like F1.
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Old 25 Nov 2015, 16:26 (Ref:3593274)   #33
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I refuse to sign a paper that says you need to mimick the concepts of more popular to become respected yourself. And that you need to compare yourself to those others instead of doing your own creative thing. And that the it's the masses you should target yourself to, when concept is ill fated for such.

But I'm sure that's exactly what has been carved into the stone.

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MSV targeting pre-LM24 WEC round

Chiana pick an alternative circuit in each country were the WEC visits can't be lower than grade 2. Spa can be switched with another eu circuit.
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Old 5 Dec 2015, 11:59 (Ref:3595664)   #35
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But Mexico doesn't have any alternative either, it would have to be from Latin America in general.

Nor does Bahrain so it'd have to be other Middle Eastern country, or general Asia

And even non-F1 tracks wouldn't really fix everything if you still had all in 6h format, and some market zones absent or not as strongly represented as should. In any calendar, I think US should have 2 races minimum. Then there's question of Kyalami of course.

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Old 5 Dec 2015, 12:15 (Ref:3595666)   #36
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...and the new Kyalami is beginning to look very good! Work is progressing very nicely.
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Old 5 Dec 2015, 12:23 (Ref:3595667)   #37
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Yes it is.

I would also be perfectly fine with both Silverstone and Spa 6 Hours if they had in integrated ELMS grids in them again. Even partially (LMP2+3) to meet the maximum capacity. Would be very happy about having those two then.

If there weren't any changes to proceduals, I think Nurburgring GP Track is the only one I'd retain by itself bar Le Mans. Clearly Nordschleife is impossibility (other than for GTs that is) but it's good enough replacement in crucial market zone with good crowds, and the track isn't totally wrecked yet.
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It's not wrecked but it was never good in the first place

I was shocked with Mexico's track. I knew I couldn't expect the current layout to be evenly remotely on par with the old great one, but boy...... It's easily the worst track on the entire F1 calendar, and that's a not small "accomplisment" with the likes of Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, China, CGV(beautiful surroundings, horrible layout) and Sochi.

Despite being mostly comprised of dull slow corners, even these other tracks have one or two nice corners. Mexico's best corner is still quite subpar, imho.

The track I would most like to be included in the calendar, from Latin America, is Argentina's Potrero de los Funes. Will NEVER happen, though. John Dagys has a nice onboard on his youtube account: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1GLyF3TUJM

I'm not the only one to dream, though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7ey1UjnWw8

Middle Eastern-wise, Losail is a fantastic track, a complete opposite of Bahrain and Abu Dhabi. Not only the layout is much better but it's full of grass and gravel too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uaruZ9k8Xg
Incredible how MotoGP has much better tracks than F1, btw(Losail, Muggelo, Sachsenring, Brno....)

I would assume Qatar has the money to host a WEC race, it's just likely that Bahrain can afford a lot more(plus, of course, the F1 connection)

I like Silverstone and Spa very much and the only Euro place I would replace is Nurburgring with Muggelo(also never happening). I know WEC needs a German track but I'm not fond of any, Sachsenring apart(but that's a bike's layout. Wouldn't work for WEC). My option for Muggelo is purely based on layout.

I know Fuji won't be replaced due to Toyota but, in Japan, I prefer any other track(possible exception of Okayama).

I would also like China replaced with either Sepang or Buriram, as Asia's round.

To post a final dream, WEC would be FANTASTIC in Turkey. It's just a shame where the track is located and that motorsport is non-existent in that part of the world

Of course, YorkshireLad asked Chiana, so sorry for getting in the way
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MotoGP is awesome to watch at Losail, would love to see WEC under lights there
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For America Id choose Road America and Sebring. Prefer RA because the elevation and scenery. In the mid-east I think Dubai looks slightly better (not to be confused with Abu Dhabi Yas Marina). Keep Spa the Ring and obviously Le Mans. Not sure how to replace Silverstone, but I wish theyd run Imola like the elms. In Japan I like Fuji and its a lot better than it gets credit for, but I would prefer Kyushu/Autopolis first, Suzuka second and then Fuji. China is fine imo. Latin America would be Potrero de los Funes above all. What a track location, the layout aint bad either minus a chicane or two.

In the future I hope they add Australia. They have plenty of tracks, but not sure on the grade 1 status.
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Kyalami 9 Hours
Portrero de los Funes 6 Hours
Laon 6 Hours
Le Mans 24 Hours
Donington Park 6 Hours
Nurburgring 6 Hours
Road America 500 Miles
Road Atlanta 500 Miles
Zhuhai 6 Hours
Fuji 12 Hours

South Africa takes Bahrain, Argentina Mexico, and (second) France Belgium. Second USA finally added.

Zhuhai is "alright" but I still like it much better than rest of the blandness in China. And I don't like Fuji as a track at all, but I would be fine with it if were made something more special like above. Otherwise, SUGO or Okayama or Autopolis.

In preferable scenario European rounds would be integrated with ELMS, and Asian with ASLMS. I would also prefer 1000km over 6 hours, but I'm willing to compromise on that.

I could consider switching this Laon thing for Imola too, if the profile is more lackluster than expected. Also admittely Italian market is important

Anyway it's still not my dream calendar still, as that would not only include Sebring12 & PLM but also Adelaide, and some other removal-changes. But those are too unrealistic even for this

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Old 6 Dec 2015, 13:21 (Ref:3595898)   #42
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Am OK with the current circuits - just want a 10 round season. Would move the calendar around. Silverstone in the summer months for better weather. Austin in the spring - don't want to compete against football in the fall.
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Looks like SRO will get to South Africa before the ACO. I really hope all that investment in Kyalami is rewarded.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/1...re-agenda.html
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Looks like SRO will get to South Africa before the ACO. I really hope all that investment in Kyalami is rewarded.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/1...re-agenda.html

I'm not really sure that's a good thing for their local series.... The Sepang 12 hours had entries in the mid-30s a few years ago, but is down to just 26 for this year, now being run under the SRO umbrella.
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New article from last month
http://www.msv.com/media/4733770/jol...ure-130416.pdf

Four racing events per year planned (whenever that may theoretically be), otherwise track day stuff and such.
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