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I'm going to lay this out again because some people seem to be ignoring it. THERE IS ZERO (0) PRIVATEER DPi TEAMS IN IMSA. They can't even buy one. Chevrolet has no interest in racing outside of the US other than Le Mans and they're only interested if they can run a Corvette or in the top class, and Mazda and Nissan's recent prototype endurance racing endeavours are on par with ByKolles. It would make way more sense to add Class 1 than DPi. Those cars are the right speed, better developed, exist in far larger numbers, follow engine regulations more closely aligned with LMP1, and are run by more teams with an interest in Le Mans and other ACO races. Porsche is not leaving. They only ever left in exchange for Audi, and Le Mans is considered as integral to Porsche's brand as F1 is to Ferrari's. At absolute worst they will halt development and hand the cars over to Joest in a similar way to the late years of the 962 and R8, but there is basically no chance you won't see a Porsche in LMP1. |
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What Alphine is doing in P2 is a bit of a joke anyways, filling their lineup with all-pro drivers and a Nissan engine and going out and crushing the class. I still think long term the best option for IMSA is to go P1 (DPi) and P2 (Pro/Am WEC Spec P2) after the PC class dies off at the end of this year. Last edited by Dyson Mazda; 19 Oct 2016 at 21:33. |
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Question is, will DPi be a viable option as an LMP1-P replacement? You have factory-backed teams running in IMSA with only a few true privateers competing there.
If ACO wants to choose DPi, they should tell IMSA to speed it up a little, but not as close as the LMP1 factory teams. |
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It won't do anything for privateers but the ACO won't care about it. |
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20 Oct 2016, 02:37 (Ref:3681528) | #158 | |
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It's true that DPi will have more potential entries in the IMSA, but it'll have very few cars crossing over to compete in the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
As much as some people would like to see Action Express and Visit Florida racing in Le Mans, the teams would rather send their drivers to compete in the GTE category, especially the Corvette C7.R program. |
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If DPi's are being let in, that might change.
Also, neither of the teams you mentioned had the opportunity to compete at LM with their current prototype car. As things stand now, that won't change. But who knows in 2-3 years time? |
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Bentley - going to race in a less competitive sub-category to the one that already has two VAG brands makes about as little sense as anything possibly could Alpine - doesn't even stand to gain anything going from one LMP2 category to another Peugeot - doesn't stand to gain anything either, Peugeot, Toyota, and Porsche were all competitive in their debut seasons I don't know why it's implicit that manufacturers should be happier spending money to lose to the LMP1H manufacturers than privateers, because there is no way in hell rebranded, development frozen LMP2s are going to be made as fast. By the way what Alpine is doing makes perfect sense if you understand the status of the brand. They don't have a product to market, Alpine itself is just a brand awareness exercise right now. |
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The old talk from Bentley was that they want to fight for overall wins, so a dpi program in imsa would fit that bill. They were close to engine testing in another chassis but i am not sure that ever ended up happening. So for imsa it would make sense, but for a P1-P you are right that makes little sense.
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Just look at the Nissan P1 program that fell apart. They didn't even build a competitive car and got a lot more press than the teams that made up the podium at the 24 did. |
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22 Oct 2016, 17:20 (Ref:3681951) | #166 | |
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That makes the most sense for seeing Bentley at LM, I think Bentley in IWSC could happen for 2018 if they like the way next season goes. It could be an interesting car if they use the Speed 8 as their design idea. Of course the VAG could put the whole idea in the waste bin before they even have a chance to feel it out.
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You could get a rogue customer who'd take the car where the manufacturer doesn't want, but you may not get much support. |
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I do agree with you, but never underestimate the manufacturers being difficult. VAG Can be particularly difficult, even in the digital world with who can do what with their products! |
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