WSR/Formula Renault 3.5 Off Season discussion for 2010

sauber11 · 7 Oct 2009, 10:54 (Ref:2555797)

Yes , its true about Hartley-Ricciardo , now its reported that Hartley will do WSR, while i guess Ricciardo will drive F3 at Barcelona with carlin to prepare for macau maybe.

http://www.motorsport-total.com/form..._09100702.html
http://www.motorsport-total.com/form..._09100603.html

Walter Grubmuller will drive for P1 motorsport in 2010 as his father buys the team for his son. Again.

I saw this coming , as Walter tested 4 days with P1 last year.

Alex K · 7 Oct 2009, 14:46 (Ref:2555920)

Roly Vincini thanked Grubmueller for help in the advert in Autosport, so may think that you might be right.

strider · 11 Oct 2009, 22:10 (Ref:2559240)

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Originally Posted by sauber11

Walter Grubmuller will drive for P1 motorsport in 2010 as his father buys the team for his son. Again.

I saw this coming, as Walter tested 4 days with P1 last year.

The story was that his father had already bought P1 last year, so no surprise there then.

Wonder how the old man will get on with Roly?

sauber11 · 13 Oct 2009, 18:34 (Ref:2560729)

Daniil Move: Mr.Grubmuller has already long ago collaborated with our team. This is very well-off businessman, it several helped us, especially after the fire, which wholly destroyed the base of team. It goes without saying, at its place I would give to son the possibility to pass the final stage of a world series, this it would be very usefully in the plan of experience. But for my place in P1 I am calm and now I am prepared for those forthcoming races".

Testing schedule
Spain, Ciudad del Motor de Aragon 27-29 october
Spain , Barcelona 3-4 november

I bet Merhi will drive for Epsilon Euskadi in 2010 , as he already drove for them in 2008 and was very fast last winter testing their WSR car all 4 days.

yosssi · 13 Oct 2009, 18:57 (Ref:2560743)

I think Merhi will do another year in F3 with ART

Robbe · 13 Oct 2009, 20:31 (Ref:2560791)

Isn't Mehri supported by Mercedes? If so, he will probably stay in F3 with either ART, Mücke or Manor and then move to GP2 or to DTM.

yosssi · 14 Oct 2009, 19:28 (Ref:2561508)

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Originally Posted by Robbe

Isn't Mehri supported by Mercedes? If so, he will probably stay in F3 with either ART, Mücke or Manor and then move to GP2 or to DTM.

yes he signed 6 years of contract

Sev · 15 Oct 2009, 20:04 (Ref:2562236)

Bottas and Mehri at ART next year, that would be quite a title race

Uhhh, nothing todo with WSR though. How about I contribute with a guess - Ricciardo to Carlin?

N.A-D.R · 16 Oct 2009, 06:33 (Ref:2562498)

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Originally Posted by Sev

Bottas and Mehri at ART next year, that would be quite a title race

Uhhh, nothing todo with WSR though. How about I contribute with a guess - Ricciardo to Carlin?

Maybe Tech 1, since he raced for them during the year. But Carlin is what i would put my money on.

ivanalesi · 16 Oct 2009, 10:03 (Ref:2562604)

Btw, what about Chilton, will he test WSbR? He's got time to do a couple of season in WSbR and GP2

N.A-D.R · 16 Oct 2009, 10:20 (Ref:2562614)

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Originally Posted by ivanalesi

Btw, what about Chilton, will he test WSbR? He's got time to do a couple of season in WSbR and GP2

I thought he was already confirmed with Campos? Or that might of been just confirmed for the tests. But yeah thats a possibility.

Hawkwood · 17 Oct 2009, 14:56 (Ref:2563255)

I think that Chilton is confirmed for GP2 Asia, as for after that.....?

WSR Fan · 21 Oct 2009, 19:08 (Ref:2566536)

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Originally Posted by N.A-D.R

Maybe Tech 1, since he raced for them during the year. But Carlin is what i would put my money on.

At the moment, it doesn't seem as if Red Bull are interested in putting any of their junior drivers in GP2 next year, so I would imagine that Ricciardo will end up in WSR, most likely with Carlin. After all, Alguersuari went from British F3 to WSR and proved to be instantly competitive.

Although saying that, Carlin are one of the teams entering the new GP3 series next year, so if Red Bull wants to be represented in that championship it may decide to put Daniel there instead?

In other WSR news, a few names are starting to appear on the net of the drivers who will be taking part in the first winter test, which is due to start next Tuesday at Motorland Aragon in Spain. So far we have the following:

Daniel Mancinelli (Draco Racing)
Esteban Guerrieri and Bruno Mendez (RC Motorsport)
Francesco Castellacci (Interwetten.com and Prema Powerteam)
Daniel Zampieri (Comtec Racing)

**chunterer** · 21 Oct 2009, 21:29 (Ref:2566653)

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Originally Posted by WSR Fan

At the moment, it doesn't seem as if Red Bull are interested in putting any of their junior drivers in GP2 next year.

Although saying that, Carlin are one of the teams entering the new GP3 series next year, so if Red Bull wants to be represented in that championship it may decide to put Daniel there instead?

I can't see there being no Red Bull backed driver in GP2....

I also doubt that one of their top 2 starlets; Ricciardo will move sideways from F3 to the fledgling GP3? Much more likely that he'll do WSR 3.5 as you say but that may depend on what they do with Hartley, Wickens, Vergne and Bortolotti?

Of those latter 4, I expect 2 of them will be in FR3.5.

runshaw · 22 Oct 2009, 00:14 (Ref:2566741)

Bit strange that Red Bull don't seem to be putting drivers in GP2 at the moment. Are we expecting Mika Maki to be in WSR? Chunterer- I reckon Vergne will be in F3. It seems the way to go for Formula Renault Eurocup drivers. Be interesting to see what happens to Hartley! Would another season in WSR do him any good? He actually started competing in single-seaters 7 years ago...its taking him a while to move up.

Rf1 Fan · 22 Oct 2009, 11:49 (Ref:2567035)

I expect Vergne with Tech 1 in GP3 then in FR3.5
Hartley at Tech1 in 2010 and Ricciardo at Carlin in FR3.5.

I think that young driver from FR2.0 before to go with tech 1 or Carlin they will go in GP3.

**chunterer** · 22 Oct 2009, 20:44 (Ref:2567447)

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Originally Posted by runshaw

Bit strange that Red Bull don't seem to be putting drivers in GP2 at the moment.

Be interesting to see what happens to Hartley! Would another season in WSR do him any good? He actually started competing in single-seaters 7 years ago...its taking him a while to move up.

Yes, but the GP2 thing can surely only have been temporary. They've got far too many drivers swilling around not to put at least one of them in there again next year.

Surely it'll be Hartley if anyone? He's been mucked about a bit this year if you ask me so it's not done his momentum or confidence much good by the looks of it. Just what did they think would happen when they switched him (can't have been his primary choice) between F3 and FR3.5 like that???

However, give him the right team/engineer in ONE series again and he'll be flying again.

Wickens as well Ricciardo for 3.5 full time next year perhaps?

runshaw · 23 Oct 2009, 01:52 (Ref:2567580)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Surely it'll be Hartley if anyone? He's been mucked about a bit this year if you ask me so it's not done his momentum or confidence much good by the looks of it. Just what did they think would happen when they switched him (can't have been his primary choice) between F3 and FR3.5 like that???

Robert Wickens did ok when they switched him between the two. Red Bull often do it, just look at the sheer amount of races Sebastien Buemi did! He competed in the F3 Euroseries, Formula Renault Eurocup and Formula Renault North European Cup in the same year, and was a race winner in ALL of them! In the same year he alse finished 3rd in the F3 Masters and 4th at Macau. Then the year after he juggled finishing vice-champion in the F3 Euroseries with some blinding pace in his GP2 outings. I can't see how Brendon Hartley has compared favourably with his season. It's quite easy to pin-point some of his glaring mistakes in BF3 last year too, Oulton Park, Snetterton etc...is he really a great driver? He's been in single-seater longer than Buemi/Alguersuari.

jondownunder · 25 Oct 2009, 13:13 (Ref:2569332)

2010 calendar announced

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2010 calendar:

17-18 April Motorland Aragon, Spain
1-2 May Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium
14 May Monaco
5-6 June Brno, Czech Republic
19-20 June Magny-Cours, France
3-4 July Hungaroring, Hungary
18-19 July Silverstone, United Kingdom
4-5 September Hockenheim, Germany
9-10 October Barcelona, Spain

I'm glad to see they've scrapped the overly-complicated reverse grid system, with each race now having a separate qualifying session to decide the grid. Could lead to more predictable races, but I'm sick of championships awarding mediocrity by reversing grids.

jondownunder · 25 Oct 2009, 13:19 (Ref:2569333)

Dammit, just noticed the Silverstone date clashes with WTCC/F2 at Brands

skells22 · 25 Oct 2009, 13:55 (Ref:2569346)

I wonder who will show the races next year?

sauber11 · 25 Oct 2009, 18:45 (Ref:2569527)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Yes, but the GP2 thing can surely only have been temporary. They've got far too many drivers swilling around not to put at least one of them in there again next year.
Wickens as well Ricciardo for 3.5 full time next year perhaps?

I recently checked deeply how red bull developed their juniors past 2 years and here is my guess what will happen:

Aleshin - likely last year with redbull. Reasons:1)new recruit Kvyat, who is also russian 2) Mikhail "too old" for juniors 3) Showing no better than Bortolotti or Wickens , who are younger and more perspective.
Alguersuari - already in formula1. I really hope they will send him back to gp2 , as 6 place in WSR ( and even possible 2-3) not enought for F1. Too slow compare to Buemi.
Bortolotti - why he appeared at hockenheim with carlin and not logical Ricciardo? For sure ,they meeting him with Carlin for future Gp3 season with them.
Hartley - WSR likely with Tech1 , Carlin also possible. Title shot.
Maki - He showed no better than Vernay , and redbull dumped french last year. Will they do same with finn? i think yes.
Ricciardo - Earlier i thought he will continue with Carlin in WSR and i still think so, but its also possible that he goes to australian MW Arden in gp3.
Vergne - i thought about british F3 with Carlin, but its now likely euroseries f3 because of Nasr doing British series.
Wickens - Gp3 with Bortolotti, Gp2 less likely but still possible.

And new ones
Kvyat - euro f-bmw
Sainz jr. euro f-bmw
Nasr British f3 likely

So if I am 100% correct ( which i know wont happen) we have two drivers in WSR, two in Gp3, one in euroseries and british f3,2 in formula-bmw = 8 drivers total. If they need Maki , they can send him in formula2 because of price.

Lukoil management already said that no formula1 for Aleshin any soon and unlikely Gp2 because of high price ( not respectable for sponsors they said).
Forth season in WSR? Gp3 at 23 years old? No way juniors can stick with him one more season.

p-matt · 25 Oct 2009, 19:38 (Ref:2569550)

I cannot see the F2 Red Bull drivers in GP3 next year - surely that would be perceived as a massive step down?

ivanalesi · 25 Oct 2009, 20:27 (Ref:2569570)

Is it certain for Kvyat and Sainz will do FBMW?

Go_For_Pole · 25 Oct 2009, 20:33 (Ref:2569574)

It has been scooped by stop&go long time ago, Eurointernational being their team apparently. Sauber you forgot Juncadella, he could end up in gp3 (if retained by RB of course) and Nasr has said no to them. In fact word is that another f.bmw driver also rejected RB.

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