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18 Jan 2004, 00:43 (Ref:841993) | #1 | ||
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Zolt no money no ride ?
With the issue worsing for Zolt as unfortunate as it is
From F1-live Are we going to see Zsolt in Australia? The manager of Zsolt Baumgartner, Tamas Frank, admitted that his driver might have some problems to keep his seat at Minardi. Baumgartner's main sponsor, petroleum company Mol Rt., only gave their approval for a contract between the Hungarian driver and Jordan. On the other hand, Tamas Frank is blaming Mol Rt. for changing their agreement on the date limit, just before making the first payment to Minardi. Zsolt Baumgartner desperately needs the sponsorship money of his financial partners if he wants to keep his contract with Minardi. A Mol Rt. spokesperson mentioned that his company is committed to have Baumgartner in Formula One without specifying exactly how this might happen. Could this be the fix (I hope so ) http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns12376.html Last edited by Mark Webber; 18 Jan 2004 at 00:46. |
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18 Jan 2004, 03:53 (Ref:842060) | #2 | ||
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It'd be good for Ryan to get some extra miles in an F1 car this year & if it is by racing for Minardi than i'm all for it.
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18 Jan 2004, 05:57 (Ref:842082) | #3 | ||
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I think Ryan should be in F1 . If Toyota pick up the Bill it would be ironic considering all the fuss Minardi/Paul had with them a couple of years ago.
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18 Jan 2004, 06:31 (Ref:842085) | #4 | ||
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It would be better to get a free Toyota engine instead Then Stoddart can run Briscoe and Courtney in the same team
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18 Jan 2004, 06:41 (Ref:842089) | #5 | ||
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Now stop teasing GTR but imagine a Minardi with a toyota powerplant . not a bad idea . or still as a Toyota junior team ala Ferrai to Sauber they could rebade is DI@SU wouldn't that be funny
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18 Jan 2004, 07:19 (Ref:842101) | #6 | ||
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That is a great idea GTR, that way the Aussie domination of F1 would be underway.
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18 Jan 2004, 10:10 (Ref:842197) | #7 | |
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from f1 central.net:
But there would be good news to follow for the Hungarian as his countrymen rallied behind him and set up a financial drive to see Baumgartner on the 2004 grid. In just one day donations totalled 45 million forints with monies coming from as far as the United States to support the driver. Whether or not the last-ditch-effort saves Baumgartner’s drive remains to be seen but Minardi have given the youngster just one week to find the required sponsorship money. way to go |
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18 Jan 2004, 12:24 (Ref:842305) | #8 | ||
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Id heard that his countrymen were in uproar at the fact that the govt were spending $4mil on him when the country's economy is dire.
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18 Jan 2004, 12:55 (Ref:842327) | #9 | ||
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If Zolt does miss the boat I wonder if he will be picked up as a Fri test driver?
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18 Jan 2004, 18:14 (Ref:842522) | #10 | ||
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Having a Customer Toyota engine is clearly not a retrigrade step but the big question is, if they were struggling to keep a Cosworth engine running how will they cope with a Toyata let or lone afford it, and i can't see James courtney's Managment letting him take the Minardi drive being 19th or 20th on the grid for every Grand Prix and being forgotten about. Dunno maybe im wrong tell me what you think
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18 Jan 2004, 19:15 (Ref:842571) | #11 | ||
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Alonso, Webber and Wilson got noticed while running at the back in Minardis, and maybe Courtney / Bruni / Baumgartner / whoever can this year. Having an Australian running in an Australian team would have to be good publicity as well. I'd say you are wrong, to be honest.
Minardi have a well-drilled staff who are more than capable of running any quiment to the peak of its potential, the only problem they've had is that the equipment in question has usually been under-developed or outdated. Customer Toyotas won't propel them up the grid, but the engine is widely seen as the team's strongest link, so maybe they'd have a chance of beating Jordan on occasion, and a few realtively light runs could push Minardi past af ew other cars (they'd have to be careful not to beat Toyota too regularly though). |
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18 Jan 2004, 20:25 (Ref:842641) | #12 | ||
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Maybe but Wilson didn't get noticed for what he did in the Mino mainly because he was outqualified by Jos on so many occasions his move to Jag was because he beat Webber in F300 and Webber was setting the world alight with his pace so Jag thought ohh " He must be just as good if not better" and that was what went wrong.
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10 Feb 2004, 15:52 (Ref:869592) | #14 | |
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Quote from his management:
They added Baumgartner would still meet his payment obligations to Minardi. Seems like there's no problem for now. |
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10 Feb 2004, 16:41 (Ref:869626) | #15 | ||
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I was not able to speak with Zsolt on the subject yet, but I am more than confident that they found a sponsor who is willing to pay for the ride.
The deal with the government was an interest free loan and not a sponsorship. In five years they were obligated to pay it back. If they can get the money now from sponsors he is much better off. Anyway, he will race whether you guys like it or not. Personally, I think he is a perfect paydriver, because he does not crash the car too often. He will not be the best driver, but is still better than for exaple Yoong or Marques. So I am happy for him. Cheers |
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10 Feb 2004, 17:28 (Ref:869650) | #17 | ||
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When Tarso Marques he was tipped as a future world Champion by Martin Brundle.
" Tarso Marques a future champion no doubt about it" where as Zsolt Baumgartner was given " I don't think that Kiesa and Baumgartner are the sort of people you would expect to be knocking on the door of formula 1" |
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10 Feb 2004, 18:05 (Ref:869689) | #18 | |
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Did Martin make that comment before or after Tarso smashed into him in the 1996 Argentine Grand Prix?
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With only a few weeks until the season starts i think Stoddart has to finalise his driver line up & if Baumgartner can't come up with the money then find someone that can, time is quickly running out.
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He isnt a bad driver, but he will never be more then a Mika Salo type driver. The sort that can get ****e cars into the points but will be driving around ****e all there f1 careers.
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Baumgartner came up with the money. They payed the first $2million. Team Minardi will bring a twoseater to Budapest, Hungary next weekend and Zsolt will drive it arround on the streats of Philadephia ahhh I mean Budapest :-))).
Other than than Zsolt is not the fastest driver, we all know that; but, he is very consistent, has very good technical feedback, does not crash cars, is in excellent fitness condition and brings a lot of money. I do not see any reason why Minardi should not take him as a driver. |
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11 Feb 2004, 10:50 (Ref:870464) | #23 | ||
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There's no way Zsolt is among the top 20 drivers in F1 - in fact, if he loses the drive I don't think he'll be among the top 20 outside F1 - but realistically he is a good choice, for the reasons Attila outlines.
Does he now have guaranteed backing for the full season? I read at one stage that he only had it confirmed for the first 4 races? |
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11 Feb 2004, 11:44 (Ref:870519) | #24 | ||
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His family is extremely wealthy. I am sure that if he cannot find enough sponsors they will pay for the ride.
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11 Feb 2004, 17:46 (Ref:870940) | #25 | |
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wealthy enough to pay for a formula one drive ?
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