Round 14: The Honda Indy 200, Mid-Ohio. Lexington, OH, USA. July 31st - 2nd August, 2 - Page 2

**bjohnsonsmith** · 2 Aug 2015, 19:30 (Ref:3563338)

Karam spins bringing out what could be a race changing yellow.

rwintle · 2 Aug 2015, 19:33 (Ref:3563339)

Wow. Rahal could win this one and Montoya's down the order. Really lucky break on the yellow for Rahal.

rwintle · 2 Aug 2015, 19:39 (Ref:3563341)

This business of hiding the number of push-to-passes remaining is idiotic.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 2 Aug 2015, 19:50 (Ref:3563345)

The 4th caution and 10 laps to go; bad timing.

tux · 2 Aug 2015, 19:57 (Ref:3563346)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Karam spins bringing out what could be a race changing yellow.

Under investigation by Indycar after the race!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 2 Aug 2015, 20:03 (Ref:3563349)

Congrats to Graham Rahal, what a superb drive. I don't think Honda need worry anymore, especially with Justin Wilson in 2nd place. Great finish for Hawksworth.

rwintle · 2 Aug 2015, 20:09 (Ref:3563350)

Bah. Montoya implies Sage Karam spun on purpose. Sore loser.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 2 Aug 2015, 21:24 (Ref:3563360)

Result:

1 Graham Rahal, Rahal Letterman Lanigan. Dallara/Honda. 1h55m20.0864s
2 Justin Wilson, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 3.4049s
3 Simon Pagenaud, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 4.5706s
4 Scott Dixon, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 5.0293s
5 Tony Kanaan, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 10.5943s
6 Tristan Vautier, Dale Coyne Racing. Dallara/Honda. 11.4414s
7 Ryan Hunter-Reay, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 13.8958s
8 Jack Hawksworth, AJ Foyt Enterprises. Dallara/Honda. 15.0372s
9 Carlos Munoz, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 15.6116s
10 Marco Andretti, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 16.0094s
11 Juan Pablo Montoya, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 16.1321s
12 Gabby Chaves, Bryan Herta Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 16.4962s
13 Josef Newgarden, CFH Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 18.0350s
14 Will Power, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 18.4290s
15 Helio Castroneves, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 19.1285s
16 James Jakes, Schmidt Peterson Motorsports. Dallara/Honda. 20.1010s
17 Sebastien Bourdais, KVSH Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 20.5091s
18 Ryan Briscoe Schmidt, Peterson Motorsports. Dallara/Honda. 20.8331s
19 Stefano Coletti, KV Racing Technology. Dallara/Chevrolet. 21.5426s
20 Rodolfo Gonzalez, Dale Coyne Racing. Dallara/Honda. 24.9667s
21 Luca Filippi, CFH Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. Spun off
22 Sage Karam, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 1 Lap
23 Charlie Kimball, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 3 Laps
24 Takuma Sato, AJ Foyt Enterprises. Dallara/Honda. Contact

A great result for Honda. 1st and 2nd on the podium and 7 cars in top 10.

Paradise City · 2 Aug 2015, 22:05 (Ref:3563368)

Well done Rahal. Not inconceivable he could win the big one which certainly stands in contrast to the wicked luck that used to dog him not so long ago.

Fair juice to NBC for showing both live.

Hobbs commentating always brings me back to a time when racing was rich and raw.

canamman · 2 Aug 2015, 22:33 (Ref:3563374)

Great story for the Rayhalls (lites winner) and Rahals today.
The cars put on a great road course show.

Mekola · 2 Aug 2015, 22:51 (Ref:3563379)

Well done for Rahal and Honda!

JHamilton · 3 Aug 2015, 00:33 (Ref:3563395)

Great race, at a great track, with a great crowd and a great story. I've got to get back to Mid-Ohio. It's great.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 3 Aug 2015, 00:43 (Ref:3563397)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

Great race, at a great track, with a great crowd and a great story. I've got to get back to Mid-Ohio. It's great.

It was a great race, totally enthralling.

fieldodreams79 · 3 Aug 2015, 04:24 (Ref:3563416)

Excellent stuff from Rahal. Very opportunistic for him, great crowd, perfect track for IndyCars and what a good story/race for them. What a season for him and the team.

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

Great race, at a great track, with a great crowd and a great story. I've got to get back to Mid-Ohio. It's great.

I'll go with you and wave a U of M Flag. To hell with the Buckeyes but I do love me some Steak n Shake.

HJJ · 3 Aug 2015, 13:08 (Ref:3563496)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Excellent stuff from Rahal. Very opportunistic for him, great crowd, perfect track for IndyCars and what a good story/race for them. What a season for him and the team.
I'll go with you and wave a U of M Flag. To hell with the Buckeyes but I do love me some Steak n Shake.

I thought it was great that they handed him a S&S shake when he got out of the car. They tweeted out pic of the team having a victory dinner at Steak n Shake last night.

NaBUru38 · 3 Aug 2015, 14:08 (Ref:3563513)

I got bored by the lack of overtaking, and saddened that Montoya got caught by the pace car after Karam's spin.

But anyway, can't wait for Pocono.

Burp · 3 Aug 2015, 21:18 (Ref:3563595)

So what do we think about Karam. Did he or didn't he spin on command?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 3 Aug 2015, 22:05 (Ref:3563609)

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Originally Posted by Burp

So what do we think about Karam. Did he or didn't he spin on command?

Would a team owner with Ganassi's legacy really ask one of his drivers to spin deliberately? The spin affected Montoya directly but apart from that what advantage did Scott Dixon or Tony Kanaan gain from this as they had already pitted?

David A Scott · 4 Aug 2015, 10:46 (Ref:3563700)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Would a team owner with Ganassi's legacy really ask one of his drivers to spin deliberately? The spin affected Montoya directly but apart from that what advantage did Scott Dixon or Tony Kanaan gain from this as they had already pitted?

Why not? Andretti did the same with Herta years ago at Sears Point to get Micro his first.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 4 Aug 2015, 11:25 (Ref:3563703)

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Originally Posted by David A Scott

Why not? Andretti did the same with Herta years ago at Sears Point to get Micro his first.

Maybe but what advantage did this give Dixon and Kanaan, who had already pitted?

David A Scott · 4 Aug 2015, 12:30 (Ref:3563708)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Maybe but what advantage did this give Dixon and Kanaan, who had already pitted?

They gained track position on Montoya. Mid-Ohio is all about track position.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 4 Aug 2015, 12:53 (Ref:3563712)

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Originally Posted by David A Scott

They gained track position on Montoya. Mid-Ohio is all about track position.

Mid-Ohio is a difficult track to overtake on. I'd be more inclined to believe this was deliberate if it had lead to Dixon or Kanaan winning, like Nelson Piquet Jr's crash at Singapore in 2009, resulting in Alonso's win. However, Dixon or Kanaan finished 4th and 5th. Also, I'd hate to think Ganassi has now found it necessary to stoop to the level of Briatore.

David A Scott · 4 Aug 2015, 14:36 (Ref:3563727)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Also, I'd hate to think Ganassi has now found it necessary to stoop to the level of Briatore.

Well, there is that abandoned tunnel on the Pennsylvania/New Jersey border... lol

fieldodreams79 · 4 Aug 2015, 23:37 (Ref:3563819)

I think Sage is great, but he's still in his full rookie season. Rookies, like veterans make mistakes, especially tight circuits. They also are more than likely, as a junior driver, to do as they're told.

I'd like to think there's plenty of gamesmanship that goes on in racing that I am not privy to but wouldn't this have been heard on the radio by someone? How would one "code" this message? I guess I'd like some proof, rather than hearsay.

canamman · 4 Aug 2015, 23:44 (Ref:3563820)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

I'd like to think there's plenty of gamesmanship that goes on in racing that I am not privy to but wouldn't this have been heard on the radio by someone? How would one "code" this message? I guess I'd like some proof, rather than hearsay.

I think the universal "code message" is -
Got an itch ? Scratch it!

Do you remember where that is from?

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