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Old 19 Apr 2018, 11:20 (Ref:3816478)   #126
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Intellectual property is a valuable thing to hold onto these days.

Stuff like patents, stuff like registered trademarks, stuff like registered designes can be worth something to someone if the interest is there..

For example, the actual brand name ‘Holden Motorsport’ might be just the kind of thing that a former local motor manufacturer, now importer might like to hang onto. Especially since it has a 30+ year connection to the Holden brand.

So... you have to wonder why the trademark ‘Holden Motorsport’ was cancelled back in 2012... no money to keep the trademark listing fees ticking?

There is the ASIC-registered business name ‘Holden Motorsport’ still wandering around too. A quick search at the places that do searches like that consider the business name ‘Holden Motorsport’ might be entrusted to a former media operative that ran their communications show for a looooooooong time until just recently...

Maybe 888 should buy the name for fun... their current role seems like Holden Motorsport anyway

Presuming any of this actually happened
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Old 19 Apr 2018, 11:57 (Ref:3816484)   #127
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I understand there was a bit of hoo-haa over a Facebook fan page of the same name, not too long ago. Cease and desist, and all of that.
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Old 19 Apr 2018, 12:32 (Ref:3816491)   #128
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I understand there was a bit of hoo-haa over a Facebook fan page of the same name, not too long ago. Cease and desist, and all of that.
The fanpage may have evolved from the 2017 edition of a Holden Motorsport official webpage, which seemed to become surplus to requirements when Holden, or 888, created a brand new page on FB and Insta from scratch earlier this year.

Too scared to talk to the person who owned it/the passwords to it
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Old 19 Apr 2018, 13:57 (Ref:3816501)   #129
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From what I gather, there wasn't previously a HMS FB page, therefore a fan created one.
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Old 19 Apr 2018, 15:12 (Ref:3816516)   #130
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Intellectual property is a valuable thing to hold onto these days.

Stuff like patents, stuff like registered trademarks, stuff like registered designes can be worth something to someone if the interest is there..

For example, the actual brand name ‘Holden Motorsport’ might be just the kind of thing that a former local motor manufacturer, now importer might like to hang onto. Especially since it has a 30+ year connection to the Holden brand.

So... you have to wonder why the trademark ‘Holden Motorsport’ was cancelled back in 2012... no money to keep the trademark listing fees ticking?

There is the ASIC-registered business name ‘Holden Motorsport’ still wandering around too. A quick search at the places that do searches like that consider the business name ‘Holden Motorsport’ might be entrusted to a former media operative that ran their communications show for a looooooooong time until just recently...

Maybe 888 should buy the name for fun... their current role seems like Holden Motorsport anyway

Presuming any of this actually happened
This sort of post really P's me off, "I know more than you know so I am more important" sort of thing.
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Old 19 Apr 2018, 19:41 (Ref:3816552)   #131
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This sort of post really P's me off, "I know more than you know so I am more important" sort of thing.
Its not hard to work out...
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Old 19 Apr 2018, 22:22 (Ref:3816570)   #132
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This sort of post really P's me off, "I know more than you know so I am more important" sort of thing.
Or would you rather argue with the resident pest?
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Old 20 Apr 2018, 01:49 (Ref:3816582)   #133
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Or would you rather argue with the resident pest?
Both of them are a pain, they seem to think it is their own little fiefdom so they can be king of the kids or I know something that you don't know etc, petty one upmanship is a good description. It is the reason a lot of people don't or no longer post here, if you don't follow the party line then you are the enemy. I haven't posted here for a long time and thought I would give it a go but nothing has changed at all.
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Old 20 Apr 2018, 11:32 (Ref:3816634)   #134
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More deckchair changes at the good ship Holden Here

Head of sponsorship at Holden Jo Gilbert is leaving too...

Would the last person in the building please turn out the lights??
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Old 20 Apr 2018, 11:57 (Ref:3816638)   #135
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More deckchair changes at the good ship Holden Here

Head of sponsorship at Holden Jo Gilbert is leaving too...

Would the last person in the building please turn out the lights??
Some (but not all) of the marketing / sales people really didn't seem up to the job or seemed to be major handbrakes to the business.

The changes seem to be about bringing back in people who know what they're doing, are focussed and have the confidence of the dealer network.

They've got a big job ahead of them, made bigger by some of the damage done over the last couple of years.
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Old 20 Apr 2018, 12:32 (Ref:3816639)   #136
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I think it's odd how they cleared everyone out of HMS last year, particularly Mr McNamara, Mr McDornan and Mr Hughes.

Now somehow HMS still exists, and the marketing department it's run from is having a broom put through it. Totally understandable, given the fractured transitioning of the VF Commodore and Insignia that morphed into what we refer to as the ZB.
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Old 17 May 2018, 02:26 (Ref:3822951)   #137
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Intellectual property is a valuable thing to hold onto these days.

Stuff like patents, stuff like registered trademarks, stuff like registered designes can be worth something to someone if the interest is there..

For example, the actual brand name ‘Holden Motorsport’ might be just the kind of thing that a former local motor manufacturer, now importer might like to hang onto. Especially since it has a 30+ year connection to the Holden brand.

So... you have to wonder why the trademark ‘Holden Motorsport’ was cancelled back in 2012... no money to keep the trademark listing fees ticking?

There is the ASIC-registered business name ‘Holden Motorsport’ still wandering around too. A quick search at the places that do searches like that consider the business name ‘Holden Motorsport’ might be entrusted to a former media operative that ran their communications show for a looooooooong time until just recently...

Maybe 888 should buy the name for fun... their current role seems like Holden Motorsport anyway

Presuming any of this actually happened
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Old 17 May 2018, 02:29 (Ref:3822952)   #138
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Who is Veracity Media??
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Veracity Media is Gerald McDornan’s company - handled Holden Motorsport’s marketing for years.

Wouldn’t surprise if the ownership of the registered name was whilst the commercial arrangement was in place - registration may revert to Holden at some stage.
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I recall when HMS was first set up in 1987, they gave Perkins and Grice (but not Brock) some stickers to put on their race cars.

Pretty sure Grice complained afterwards about not receiving anything more than the said sticker.

When a company is founded under less than reputable circumstances, its demise is far easier to accept.
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When a company is founded under less than reputable circumstances, its demise is far easier to accept.
Switching from the loved HDT equippe was foolish in the extreme.

But this is ancient history, Brock and Holden put aside their differences and reunited after all.
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Switching from the loved HDT equippe was foolish in the extreme.
A read of Bill Tuckey's book on the whole ordeal may have you changing your mind
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Did Mr. Walkinshaw offer better services at a more attractive price to Holden or something?
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