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4 May 2003, 14:08 (Ref:589100)
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F2003-GA Debut
OK, it won, but it didn't run away with it like the 2002 did last year.
It looks great, and it's the best car on the grid. However, with the promise of the "New McLaren" coming along, I have to say that I wasn't AS overawed with it as I thought I would be. Were Ferrari running it conservatively so that it would make the race finish?? Is there more in this car?? Will it be a Ferrari WCC?? It might be closer than we ever dared hope... |
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4 May 2003, 14:11 (Ref:589109)
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It certainly didn't live up to the hype. Early days thoough and it well get quicker, but out of the box the development step was ....how do you say....exaggerated!
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A torrential afternoon practice session in Watkins Glen saw Villeneuve out-qualify everyone. By 11 seconds.Scheckter stated: "I scared myself rigid that day, I thought I had to be quickest. Then I saw Gilles's time and - I still don't really understand how it was possible. Eleven seconds !"
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4 May 2003, 14:17 (Ref:589118)
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4 May 2003, 14:21 (Ref:589125)
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oh sorry it won the race anyway. Development or not Ferrari won and will win again, easily.
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4 May 2003, 14:21 (Ref:589126)
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Nice Sunday afternoon drive for TGF - why 'push' if you don't have to?
If it 'aint broke - don't fix it! Early days. Alonso did very well tho' and so did Firman, congrats to them. |
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4 May 2003, 14:22 (Ref:589128)
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Ah yes, point taken, but look at the 2002's debut. PLUS like I say, there's a new Mac coming that'll probably be every bit as fast if not fastER. If last years Mac was faster than last years Ferrari, it stands to reason that a later-launched Mac is going to be faster than this year's Ferrari. IN THEORY.
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4 May 2003, 15:09 (Ref:589186)
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except that last year the MacMerc's were not overall faster than the ferrari's this years rules and event have showed a fast Mac but ferrari clobbered in Italy and won , so the new MercMAc whatever will have to be good, no doubt it will be, i would liek coulthard to be able to get a championship some day.
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4 May 2003, 15:36 (Ref:589209)
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A god part of Renault's grip I think is derived from this "Optimum Contact Patch" technology that they have worked out with Michelin. This system reportedly has been made available to all Michelin teams. If Mclaren, with their superior horsepower and they're already well balanced chassis can implement this system and add Renault levels of grip to their current package,....WATCHOUT!!!
The key with Mclaren is reliability though. They seem to be able to always produce a quick car but a little fragile. Should be good though. |
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A torrential afternoon practice session in Watkins Glen saw Villeneuve out-qualify everyone. By 11 seconds.Scheckter stated: "I scared myself rigid that day, I thought I had to be quickest. Then I saw Gilles's time and - I still don't really understand how it was possible. Eleven seconds !"
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4 May 2003, 19:08 (Ref:589382)
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The new Ferrari.
So is it all that good?
Personaly I'd say no. Yes it is an impressive car, but no where near as good as Ferrari have been making it out to be. When was the last time a Renault kept up with a Ferrari? I think McLaren could take this C'ship.....hopefully Kimi, DC has no chance. |
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4 May 2003, 19:10 (Ref:589384)
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The F2003 was not as impressive as they wanted us to believe.
I still rate McLaren as topcontenders for both titles. |
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4 May 2003, 19:17 (Ref:589394)
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meet the new boss...
same as the old boss... |
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4 May 2003, 19:17 (Ref:589395)
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You think its not that good?
Is that also what you thought last year when the F2002 debuted and won its first race? Just to refresh your memory from the 2002 debut: 1. Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:31:43.663 2. Ralf Schumacher Williams +0.588 Half a second. Where did these two teams end up in relation to each other? 
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4 May 2003, 19:21 (Ref:589399)
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I'm glad (and relieved) to see that it is no where near as quick as everyone thought. Bring on the rest of the season I say.
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4 May 2003, 19:35 (Ref:589418)
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Those who think its not a huge step forward may be eating their words in a few months time..Ferrari have akways had an aggressive development program during the season and no one has been able to keep up with them by mid season.
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4 May 2003, 19:38 (Ref:589423)
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I don't eat any words for whatever reason.
I'm not that pathetic. |
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4 May 2003, 19:41 (Ref:589426)
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Blinding car, but not as good as the red team say. |
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4 May 2003, 19:42 (Ref:589427)
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SO does everyone else Mania, the fact is that car, out of the box, is not as far ahead as the F2002 was.
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4 May 2003, 19:42 (Ref:589429)
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 Agreed, Mania, but theres talk that the GA doesnt have the development potential of the other F-2000s. Ill wait and see... |
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4 May 2003, 19:43 (Ref:589430)
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maybe it just didn't look that good b/c michelin had the better tyres?
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4 May 2003, 19:45 (Ref:589432)
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4 May 2003, 19:47 (Ref:589435)
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is not as far ahead but still don't thinks they that close .... i would wonder how the new Ferrari could do with the Michelin tires .. the new McLaren could be very close .. but until Silverstone the damage could be already done ...
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4 May 2003, 19:51 (Ref:589444)
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*goes back and reads again* I see, well you're forgetting of course that the new Williams is even more dog slow than last years. |
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4 May 2003, 20:11 (Ref:589484)
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But my point is that last year's Ferrari's debut was met with an even smaller gap to the next nearest competitor than today's race. Later on, as it was developed, it just pulled away from the rest. And Rubens didn't even finish the race last year. All in all, I think the F2003GA's debut is *better* than that of the F2002.
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4 May 2003, 20:19 (Ref:589489)
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Yes the new Ferrari is GREAT.........but is it as great as Ferrari have been saying?
Simply put.....no. |
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4 May 2003, 21:29 (Ref:589547)
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As has been said, not as good as it's talked up to have been.
Relieved and happy that what Ferrari claimed about it didn't come true or we'd have another boring season. Ferrarir winning with a race like there was today I do not mind at all, infact it was quite entertaining knowing that Alonso was pushing hard. |
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