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Old 18 Jun 2017, 19:48 (Ref:3744951)   #136
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Old 19 Jun 2017, 11:01 (Ref:3745162)   #137
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With Jolyon, he has his Dad negotiating deals with Renault for Motorsport Vision. You can see there's Clio's at Bedford Autodrome etc - that's the type of deal Jolyon brings.

In terms of real driving talent / raw speed, Jolyon and Lance Stroll, perhaps with Ericsson have to be the weakest drivers in the field by a margin.

To be honest, it says a lot about Renault's approach, that Jolyon has a 'works' seat.

For Renault to wriggle out of his deal this season, would surely cause ramifications for the company with the MSV arrangement. So, perhaps you could imagine if they were to ditch Jolyon for Robert, it would have to be at seasons-end, when the termination clauses are nowhere near as steep.

Plus, that MSV platform, for Renault longer term, probably isn't worth losing. Sacking the son of the owner of that platform isn't a good strategic move.

Jolyon is clearly a nice guy - smart, a good talker - just not in any way an 'A Grade' driver. Makes a bit of a mockery of GP2 that he's one of their previous champions, to be honest. But, he'll probably cling on to a ride for the rest of 2017.
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Old 19 Jun 2017, 11:11 (Ref:3745165)   #138
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Could the return of Kubica provide a marketing opportunity of sorts? Could Palmer just be demoted to being a 3rd driver? Does it have to be absolute (or does it matter if it isn't?)

If Renault want to be taken seriously then having just one driver capable of a points finish (and therefore hypothetically capable of a championship challenge) isn't wise...
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Old 19 Jun 2017, 11:25 (Ref:3745170)   #139
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I still don't see risk-averse F1 teams fielding Kubica in a race seat. It'd probably be like Wendlinger's comeback if it did happen.
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Old 19 Jun 2017, 12:13 (Ref:3745186)   #140
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Old 19 Jun 2017, 13:18 (Ref:3745218)   #141
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Sure, let's add that to the Renault disappointment of a few years ago.
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Old 19 Jun 2017, 14:16 (Ref:3745224)   #142
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It would be a huge leap of faith by Williams, but it would make them a works team again.
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Old 19 Jun 2017, 14:57 (Ref:3745230)   #143
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if true, a good move for Williams imo. perhaps cynical to say but they need or like the money more then they seem to care about results. more out of necessity then anything else but free engines, plus Honda's sponsorship contribution, and possibly money for drivers (if Williams can strike a similar deal to which Mclaren received) keeps the team moving forward.

and if Honda can actually get it sorted, Williams becomes a de facto works team again and one with a budget that may let them actually compete with the big boys. and if it doesnt work they still get the money which im sure they will use sensibly to reinvest into their faculties/diversify/build for the future etc.
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Old 19 Jun 2017, 15:29 (Ref:3745238)   #144
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If they want to get back to championship contention customer Mercs are a dead-end; it's a works plant you'll need. It's a big gamble though. But reading through F1 team history, that's what teams often do.
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...r-2018-920468/

F1 2018 Calendar Confirmed except for 2 races (China and Singapore)
Triple header France/Austria/GB + 5 other double headers
No Le Mans clash but Monaco clashes with Indy 500
Baku to 4th race, Sochi next to Singapore, Hockenheim back to before Hungary and the summer break
No other calendar swaps and same length in time as this year

Not quite confirmed but a draft calendar

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wow they sorted that out super early!
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Old 19 Jun 2017, 16:26 (Ref:3745251)   #147
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what is the point of going out to Singapore, to come back to Russia to then go back out east again to Japan.

Surely if Singapore goes ahead, then it would have made more sense to double that one up with Japan, so it would be Italy to Russia and then a Singapore-Japan. double.
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what is the point of going out to Singapore, to come back to Russia to then go back out east again to Japan.

Surely if Singapore goes ahead, then it would have made more sense to double that one up with Japan, so it would be Italy to Russia and then a Singapore-Japan. double.
International sporting events often screw up the calendar. Local factors, like bad weather associated with the seasons muck things up as well.

A Monaco clash with Indy is virtually unavoidable.
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Old 19 Jun 2017, 17:58 (Ref:3745281)   #150
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It's setting up quite nicely: Alonso will toil away in a Renault or a McLaren with customer engines, doing good to make one or two podiums, while the Honda engine comes good next year or the year after and lance f****ng stroll walks to a title.
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