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Old 14 Jan 2004, 10:16 (Ref:837676)   #26
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Glen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridGlen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridGlen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Do what you like in testing - even do a "Prost" if you like.
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Old 14 Jan 2004, 11:19 (Ref:837744)   #27
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ok, this wing thing is actually not a big deal, a) cause its testing and b) the new ('04) wings are theoretically faster anyway...

As found in Autosport tomorrow..... (Firstveiw's great)
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New Rules push up speeds: Formula 1's new-for-2004 bodywork regulations have improved the car' performance, even though they were brought in only as a means of boosting the visibility of sponser logos.
with reference to how i feel over the he second part of that quote, look at the "airboxs and wing regs" thread i started.
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Jaguar revealed last week that the rear wing and engine cover modifications have decreased donwforce by 3% but improved drag by an impressive 4.3%. This means the overall performance of the car has been theoretically improved.
This will be explained in two ways.
1) downforce reduction due to two elements instead of 3, as three can produce more downforce for a given drag level.
2) Larger endplates, while themselves producing more drag due to their size, are much more effective at producing downforce for a given wing width than a smaller plate. (This has also been discused in the Sportscar and GT forum, of the Audi R8's much copied endplates). Basically, for a given wing width, a larger endplate will produce more downforce, allowing a smaller wing setting to be used, and hence even less drag.

So in my veiw, Mclaren still have more to come....

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Old 14 Jan 2004, 12:15 (Ref:837784)   #28
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Interesting, Try Hard.

Would be circuit-dependent of course - sometimes you need just as much total downforce as you can get, virtually regardless of drag penalty.

Of course it is only testing, but judging by the amount of work completed and by consistency rather than performance I'd say Williams seem the most ahead of the game. as you say, plenty more to come from McLaren.
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Old 15 Jan 2004, 04:05 (Ref:838836)   #29
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I wonder if they try those combinations just to have the data in the computer - in case of an on-track situation that may come up later. But it probably is a bench-marking kind of thing.
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Oh yeah, and don't forget the "comparison testing" that Minardi was doing with the Arrows.

Kind of amusing really to think that anyone would be thinking you are cheating at testing: no one in their right mind is going to show all the cards in their hand, you know? I am sure they keep the "good stuff" in the garage!
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Or test the "good stuff" independantly or in different combinations on different cars.
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