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Old 20 Sep 2014, 00:00 (Ref:3455345)   #1
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The state of play coming into Singapore for Power Unit parts are shown below.

N° Car Driver ICE TC MGU-K MGU-H ES CE
01 Red Bull Racing Renault Sebastian Vettel 5 4 4 4 3 4
03 Red Bull Racing Renault Daniel Ricciardo 4 4 4 3 3 4
44 Mercedes Lewis Hamilton 4 4 4 4 3 3
06 Mercedes Nico Rosberg 4 4 4 4 3 3
14 Ferrari Fernando Alonso 5 4 3 4 4 5
07 Ferrari Kimi Räikkönen 5 4 3 5 4 5
08 Lotus Renault Romain Grosjean 4 5 4 4 3 3
13 Lotus Renault Pastor Maldonado 5 5 5 5 4 4
22 McLaren Mercedes Jenson Button 4 4 4 4 3 3
20 McLaren Mercedes Kevin Magnussen 4 4 4 4 4 4
27 Force India Mercedes Nico Hülkenberg 4 4 4 4 3 3
11 Force India Mercedes Sergio Perez Mendoza 4 4 4 4 3 3
99 Sauber Ferrari Adrian Sutil 5 5 4 5 4 4
21 Sauber Ferrari Esteban Gutierrez 4 4 4 4 3 5
25 Toro Rosso Renault Jean-Eric Vergne 4 4 5 4 3 3
26 Toro Rosso Renault Daniil Kvyat 6 4 5 4 3 3
19 Williams Mercedes Felipe Massa 4 4 4 4 2 3
77 Williams Mercedes Valtteri Bottas 4 4 4 4 4 4
17 Marussia Ferrari Jules Bianchi 5 5 4 5 3 5
04 Marussia Ferrari Max Chilton 5 5 4 5 3 4
10 Caterham Renault Kamui Kobayashi 4 4 4 4 3 4
09 Caterham Renault Marcus Ericsson 4 4 3 3 3 4
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 07:12 (Ref:3455400)   #2
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Biscuits In A Red Bull should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridBiscuits In A Red Bull should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Vettel's been told that a penalty is inevitable. I still think that he'll get a top 6 in the race though, he's never finished out of the top 5 here iirc.
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 11:27 (Ref:3455421)   #3
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Tucky should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridTucky should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridTucky should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
These next few races will be a lot closer between Vettel and Ricciardo than what we've seen so far.

Also first race with the radio ban so could see a mix up of finishing positions at the end of the race.
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 14:18 (Ref:3455465)   #4
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canamman should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridcanamman should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridcanamman should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Great last lap to qualifying as usual. Great year for F1.
Rosbergs reaction was priceless.
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 14:29 (Ref:3455467)   #5
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So Lewis pips Nico to pole by .0007 seconds. The Red bulls are on second row, with Ricciardo ahead of Vettel. The difference between Ricciardo's RB and Nico's Merc is .166 seconds. Good to see Alonso up there in 5th.
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 14:40 (Ref:3455470)   #6
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not quite that close, too many zeroes!
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 15:03 (Ref:3455474)   #7
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not quite that close, too many zeroes!
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 15:06 (Ref:3455476)   #8
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Having seen the press conference I think Rosberg was jesting slightly. Of course Sky have to make a big thing of it.
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I have grown to really like this race..The cars under the lights look amazing..
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 21:24 (Ref:3455782)   #10
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It looks like it could be really close between Red Bull and Mercedes tomorrow. I suspect that Singapore being a twisty track and relying on aero falls more into Red Bull hands. Another possible Danny Boy win? He certainly seemed confident in the interviews. Also, how long before Lewis has another hiccup in the race? For tomorrow's win - I'd say it will be either Rosberg or Danny Boy - outside chance of Vettel(as he seems to like the track).
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Old 21 Sep 2014, 11:47 (Ref:3456277)   #11
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It would appear Nico has a clutch/steering wheel problem.
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Old 21 Sep 2014, 12:20 (Ref:3456289)   #12
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This is going to put a crimp in Nico's WDC hopes.
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I have grown to really like this race..The cars under the lights look amazing..
yeah, same, it's a genuine showcase for f1, the same way monaco is, and spa (but in another way).

i'm watching sky's coverage on the tv for the first time and the girl doing the interviews is genuinely awful!
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Old 21 Sep 2014, 13:21 (Ref:3456305)   #14
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Old 21 Sep 2014, 14:05 (Ref:3456309)   #15
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Congrats to Lewis in what was a rather featureless race.
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Old 21 Sep 2014, 14:08 (Ref:3456310)   #16
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Verge!! Outstanding performance!
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Old 21 Sep 2014, 15:49 (Ref:3456342)   #17
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The important thing to come out of this weekend is that the right driver is back at the top of the championship, though not by the lead that it should be. We're on the right track towards injustices being righted, but Rosberg needs one more race DNF and two in qualifying (in Q1, not Q3) to really even it out, but at least things are moving in the right direction.

I was afraid Mercedes made a poor tire strategy decision prior to the safety car, since we always get one here, and sure enough the safety car came out and it looked like there's no way Lewis is winning today. Then he makes a great, long run on the super-softs and manages to pit and rejoin in a close second, later breezing by Vettel to reclaim the lead. Plenty of congratulations are in order there.
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Old 21 Sep 2014, 21:06 (Ref:3456407)   #18
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I'm glad Vergne's penalty had no outcome on the race. I mean where else could he go? It was one of those things. I'm glad these stewards weren't around at Dijon 79 where as each driver would have got a five second penalty each lap from the amount they went off the track.
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True, he had nowhere else to go but off the road. But he shouldn't have overtaken while he was off the road. Hard, as he was forced off, but that's the rules (and for good reason).
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It's Tuesday evening (here) and we've had 19 posts in this thread. I guess that says it all about Singapore 2014.......
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It's Tuesday evening (here) and we've had 19 posts in this thread. I guess that says it all about Singapore 2014.......
So Singapore has a F1 race that takes place at nearly midnight in order to fit in with European schedules so the race fits the regular times of European schedules yet few of the regular contributors make comments to the thread....

This doesn't mean they didn't watch it, it just means there was little to write about.....
I think that most people are over this years F1 already. It is not that it is predictable , but that the endless hype and speculation, and twittering about meaningless non issues has put most people off.....
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Ive found that too. The F1 threads and comments on here have died off considerably.
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This doesn't mean they didn't watch it, it just means there was little to write about.....
That's what I meant......
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Ive found that too. The F1 threads and comments on here have died off considerably.
Not just that but there isn't a comprehesive intro to GPs like frostie used to do. I enjoyed reading those, as they were very informative and set the scene nicely.
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So the 2014 season is over.....
Not because the racing is poor (it isn't, its good) but because F1 has become a parody of itself, and the endless changes, manipulation of teams etc by the erratic FOM management has driven the audience away?

Saward has some interesting thoughts about the future of F1. Whatever happens between now and the beginning of next season something significant is going to have to happen if the audience is going to be won back...
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