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16 Oct 2005, 07:52 (Ref:1434775)
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ah... correct me if i'm wrong...
... on the old points system, would the Constructors' Championship look like this?
1st McLaren Mercedes 151pts (10 wins) 2nd Renault 144pts (8 wins) 3rd Ferrari 62pts (1 win) 4th Toyota 46pts 5th Williams BMW 34pts 6th BAR Honda 17pts 7th Red Bull Racing 10pts 8th Sauber Petronas 8pts 9th Jordan Toyota 7pts 10th Minardi 3pts |
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16 Oct 2005, 08:02 (Ref:1434785)
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It might,but does it matter.
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16 Oct 2005, 08:03 (Ref:1434789)
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yeah, irrelvant. rules are rules
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16 Oct 2005, 08:08 (Ref:1434796)
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We could apply the 1957 rules to WCC?
It wouldn't surprise me that the old system meant McLaren won - it rewards wins more (and seconds) and McLaren were the only team to have a 1-2 (yes I do remember that race!). However they all knew the points system before the year started. |
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16 Oct 2005, 08:12 (Ref:1434801)
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Yes - you can't retrospectively apply points to results like that because they may not have raced the same way if a different points system was in force
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16 Oct 2005, 08:20 (Ref:1434807)
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Ferarri have had a 1-2 this season! It was a farce (USA) but they did get a 1-2
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16 Oct 2005, 08:25 (Ref:1434813)
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I remember that race.
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16 Oct 2005, 08:26 (Ref:1434815)
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Without going over old ground, it was a race, run to the rules, from which 14 cars retired with technical problems.
A valid 1-2. |
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16 Oct 2005, 09:16 (Ref:1434874)
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16 Oct 2005, 09:38 (Ref:1434896)
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I think it was a joke
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16 Oct 2005, 11:28 (Ref:1434972)
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16 Oct 2005, 11:38 (Ref:1434986)
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Yes, that's the crux of it.
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16 Oct 2005, 12:48 (Ref:1435069)
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Both teams have raced within the points system in place, and planned their races to ensure that they get the job done. With the old points system the tactics would have been more aggressive from Renault, perhaps leading to more failures and driver errors, or perhaps from McLaren? We'll never know, and it doesn't matter.
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16 Oct 2005, 12:55 (Ref:1435075)
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yeah, that would be different, but still i wish we had the old point system, then we'd get to see even better fights between alonso and kimi!!
 Still, this was the best season for years, so one's got to be happy with it!!
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16 Oct 2005, 17:15 (Ref:1435263)
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I agree that the older point system was more interesting. The other one was in favour of winners. This system is in favour of reliability. I agree that 8 drivers get ponts though. I also agree that the driver on pole should get an extra point and maybe even the driver effecting the fastest lap.
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16 Oct 2005, 17:45 (Ref:1435299)
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Drivers and Teams won the championship with the old system, with less wins than the second before. I don't think the point system is crucial to determine if wins or reliability works best. In the end, as it should be, consistency is the key to a championship.
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It is intersting to see how things would have worked out, but, as others have said, it doesn't mean anything.
Results are results according to the systems in place. Quote:
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